[rb2013]

But I just bought the Statement!! Glad that the Audience sounds great. Although I'm not ready for a $790 cable, - good to know that it's better.

Thanks for all your help & info.

Cheers,

Î bought the Audience for $400 on audiogon, try to see if you can find one used. The statement is very good too.

 

[ccschua]

I wonder the non usb Mutec 3+ will help after the F-1 ?

 

[FredA]

I wonder the non usb Mutec 3+ will help after the F-1 ?

Could equal the rednet, would be my guess.

 

[jabbr]

Could equal the rednet, would by my guess.

Nope, it doesn't.

 

[ccschua]

REDNET d16 without the mutec 3+ is not complete right ? with mutec 3+USB or the mutec 3+, it is not critical for rednet right ?

 

[motberg]

Some info on the PS Audio LANRover is available here:
http://www.psaudio.com/products/lanrover-usb-transporter/#tab-features
 
Seems a pretty interesting device that could help a wide range of users.

 

[rb2013]

  I wonder the non usb Mutec 3+ will help after the F-1 ?

My experience is yes - Mutec as SPDIF reclocker.  I have the better clocking USB version (this we covered extensively a few month back here on the clocking difference).
 

Could equal the rednet, would by my guess.

Well my friend I tried it - and with the better Mutec MC-3+ USB clock.
 
Not by a mile - no guess - but my extensive direct listening experience...and that was with my uber USB chain feeding the F-1
 
PC>PPA V2 USB card (TeraDak X1 - Nichicon HW caps)>Forza Twin Copper Split USB cable>Startech LEX>BJC CAT6 UTP 550Mhz>Startech REX (with one Jitterbug - Breeze 24VDC LPS+DC iPurifer)>LH Labs 2G split USB cable (data only leg)>W4S Recovery(TeraDak LPS DC-30W+Cerious Graphene PC+ DC iPurifier)>Curious 200mm USB Link>iPur 2>F-1>Audience AU24 SE Digital SPDIF RCA>APL DAC

 

[rb2013]

  REDNET d16 without the mutec 3+ is not complete right ? with mutec 3+USB or the mutec 3+, it is not critical for rednet right ?

Well what do you mean by 'complete'?  The RN is better with the Mutec as a SPDIF reclocker - should be the same for the AES.  But it didn't help as a Wclock.
 
I would say just like the F-1 with or without the Startech - it's fine without and at a whole new level with.
 
For me the absolute killer set-up is the RN3 with Mutec as SPDIF reclocker (and Audience au24 se digital cable), Antelope OCX as WClock.
 
I would say for the same money the RN3 plus the Mutec or the OCX - would be better SQ - then just the RNd16.

 

[enginedr]

Hello every one I just joined Head Fi . I have been reading rb2013 s posts for a while now and purchased many devices on his findings . With changes moving at a rapid pace
and having a DIXO p3a and a Uptone REGEN powered by there own IFI USB power supply . I decided to jump on the Red Net 3 band wagon all I can say wow
This morning I added a Antelope Live clock to the Red Net 3 as a world clock I am floored by the SQ . All I can say is thank you to Rob for all his great footwork on exposing
us to killer SQ . I take my hat off to you great work         

 

[mourip]

 
 I take my hat off to you great work         

 
+1
 

 

[mourip]

  Hello every one I just joined Head Fi . I have been reading rb2013 s posts for a while now and purchased many devices on his findings . With changes moving at a rapid pace
and having a DIXO p3a and a Uptone REGEN powered by there own IFI USB power supply . I decided to jump on the Red Net 3 band wagon all I can say wow
This morning I added a Antelope Live clock to the Red Net 3 as a world clock I am floored by the SQ . All I can say is thank you to Rob for all his great footwork on exposing
us to killer SQ . I take my hat off to you great work         

 
 
What brand of cable are you using to connect your Antelope and what kind of connector?

 

[mourip]

   
Also I'm using a BJC coax digtial cable to connect the OCX to the RN3.  I have this much better Oyaide Silver BNC digital cable coming from Japan to try.
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152131833873?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
I guess to sum it up -

 

 
Did you ever receive the Oyaide BNC cable? Like it?

 

[enginedr]

I am using just cheap world clock cables 18 inches long from the Live Clock into and out of the RN3
one is a Canare the other   one from Vintage audio king house brand .
Like us all waiting on Robs review

 

[rb2013]

  Hello every one I just joined Head Fi . I have been reading rb2013 s posts for a while now and purchased many devices on his findings . With changes moving at a rapid pace
and having a DIXO p3a and a Uptone REGEN powered by there own IFI USB power supply . I decided to jump on the Red Net 3 band wagon all I can say wow
This morning I added a Antelope Live clock to the Red Net 3 as a world clock I am floored by the SQ . All I can say is thank you to Rob for all his great footwork on exposing
us to killer SQ . I take my hat off to you great work         

Your comment are much appreciated!  Yes this really is extrodinary SQ - adding a Mutec MC-3+USB or even better a Antelope AD-DA Converter would likely raise the SQ to another level. http://www.sweetwater.com/c796--Antelope_Audio--AD_DA_Converters
 
Thanks for the tip-off on the Live clock - a cheaper solution then the OCX HD or Trinity - but appears to use the same technology.
 
If I see one come up used - I might give it a try.  The Gen4 anti-jitter is said to be a step up from the OCX Gen3.  They quote .02ppm stability!
 
I paid $690 for the OCX and I see the Live clocks sell for $900-$1000.
 
Cheers!

 

[rb2013]

   
Did you ever receive the Oyaide BNC cable? Like it?

Not yet - they just shipped it from Japan.
 
Let me tell you folks - try a little cable rolling on the SPDIF/AES Front - they do make a difference.
 
Also the Power Cords for these clock units - AC Line filtering and isolation as well.
 
Just put the OCX on a separate PB4X4PRo AC line filter and isolator (be sure it has the APF logo on the front)- from the Mutec/RN.  Made a difference.
 
They're only $80 - I now have 4 separate ones.  The down side on all the RN, Mutec, Antelope - the SMPS's they use.  They can feed noise back into the local AC - that noise can effect these precision femto clocks.