[rb2013]

Or just hot wire your DAC with one of these $250 DANTE Brooklyn II boxes:
 
Betcha it has a i2s out to hookup to the ADC - what if it has a SPDIF hookup!
 
Eureka!
I may just order one after Thursday if the RD3 SQ is supurb.
 
http://www.frontendaudio.com/Burl-Audio-Dante-Brooklyn-II-Card-for-B2-ADC-p/9999-16327.htm
 

Burl Audio Optional Brooklyn II Card for Dante Compatibility for B2-Bomber-ADC

The future is now. Now you have a universal digital audio link that works with every computer and every audio device. You can access any ADC or DAC from any workstation in your studio. That is, if they have Dante. Finally a high speed, high channel-count, low latency, long run length, digital link that is networkable. Until now digital audio routing was limited by point-to-point digital links that were either proprietary or based on standards that were written over 25 years ago and use old technology with limited run lengths. The audio world has been waiting on a modern technology standard, and while others debated, Audinate acted and delivered. Pro audio, film and broadcast have all embraced Audinate’s Dante as the de-facto standard for audio over Ethernet. Imagine the possibilities when all audio devices can be networked. Large facilities with multiple control rooms and studios can have easy access to each other. Imagine one control room runs out of outboard gear for a mix. No problem, route audio to the AD/DA in the next control room, utilizing its outboard gear. Need to use two studio main rooms with one control room? Easy, one DAW has total access to the other studio’s AD/DA. The band wants to monitor in the lounge? Again, that is no problem, all over standard CAT5e or CAT6 through a gigabit switch. How about simple 2 channel monitoring of a mix-down on a laptop? With Dante’s virtual sound card and an Ethernet jack, also not a problem.

Dante is what makes this all possible and now Burl Audio has embraced this technology. The B80 Mothership, the B2 Bomber ADC and the B2 Bomber DAC are now all Dante compatible. Now you can run multiple B2 Bombers or a B80 Mothership from a laptop or any computer with just an Ethernet jack. Not only that, but any digital gear, including mixing consoles with Dante, can now directly interface with the B80 Mothership and the B2 Bombers. Burl Audio prides itself on not only building the best sounding AD/DA converters but also on delivering high channel counts with only the most reliable, proven digital formats. Now with multiple Motherships and Dante, up to 128 channel IO is not a problem. And, those channels can be routed to any other DAW or device on the system. There are many audio brands coming up with a multitude of ways to use Dante.  Burl Audio can speak to them all and they all can have THE BURL SOUND. You are only limited by your imagination. But have faith, the future rocks. ​

 

 

[jabbr]

Damn folks we are getting so close!

http://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=61110.0

So it looks like the Brooklyn II DANTE card is $50 - in quantity.

Your quote doesn't mentione Brookly II, could still be a I.
I see the Brooklyn II being retailed for $250 or £297

 

[rb2013]

Your quote doesn't mentione Brookly II, could still be a I.
I see the Brooklyn II being retailed for $250 or £297

Yes that is likely - wonder if they sell the BK1 still?
 
Wholesale the BK2 has to be cheaper - BURL is selling a BK2 add on board for their DAC and ADC for $250 retail.
 
$125 is likely close in small quantities.
 
I bet you could build our AES67 DANTE Brooklyn II SPDIF device for under $200. Retail it for $400 - it would be a blow out success.
 
Of course there will be those who would critize it because it doesn't do 784kPCM or 256DSD...Ugg!

 

[rb2013]

I may call BURL and ask them to do a DANTE BKII SPDIF box - they are small enough to possibly listen.  They already have it implemented in their B2 Bomber DAC:
 
http://burlaudio.com/products/b2-bomber-dac
 




What's weird I don't see the DANTE Brooklyn II card?   Is it under the BURL board?
 
Should  look like this:

 

[mourip]

  I may call BURL and ask them to do a DANTE BKII SPDIF box - they are small enough to possibly listen.  They already have it implemented in their B2 Bomber DAC:
 
http://burlaudio.com/products/b2-bomber-dac
 

 
Cool. From the picture it looks like they use an SMPS power supply. Ask for a wall wort so we can replace it

 

[rb2013]

This is the card we want the other was for his ADC.
 
Now it looks like he made the B2 Bomber DAC without the BK2 DANTE interface - but now offers it built in.
 
But the good news he offers it as a add on:
http://www.odysseyprosound.com/accessories/burl-dante-brooklyn-ii-card-for-b2-dac/
 
So he must have added the slot to plug it into - then links it to his DAC board.  Has got to be Maybe i2s.
 
Or the DANTE card input slot right on the board - most likely.

 

[rb2013]

   
Cool. From the picture it looks like they use an SMPS power supply. Ask for a wall wort so we can replace it

 
Well not so interested in this $2500 DAC (I'm partial to tubed DACs, esp 6922 tubes).
 
I understand it does sound very analog with discrete opamps and class A operation - word clock input - nice.
 
But I'm curious as to how he connects the BK2 DANTE card to the DAC board - looking for a picture of the new version.
 
He sells the BK2 card for $250 retail.

 

[ccschua]

 
Well KS is not going to happen - the DANTE s/w just tricks the player software/PC into thinking it's a USB like ASIO. 
 
All ASIO means is 'Audio Stream Input Output'  - now the Theyscon XMOS ASIO's are all a bit different.  As were the Hi-Face and Amerno.
 
Interesting my JPlay 6.2 uses KS then presents as ASIO to the player - which is it?
 
With these AOIP - it's such a seachange - we have to force our USB thinking to change.  The same rules don't apply.
 
I better support this - before Alex 'corrects' me with some weird hybrid modification of the std done in some dank audio engineer's basement and then sold on line...just kidding bro'

 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Stream_Input/Output

I wonder if you had tried dual PC or the USB stick approach of the "hibernate" mode. its another step up in sound.

 

[rb2013]

  I wonder if you had tried dual PC or the USB stick approach of the "hibernate" mode. its another step up in sound.

No - not interested as I have said before - no computer gymnastics.  No R2012

 

[roger7]

 
I had a chance to compare these last night -
 
Well honestly the PPA makes a very small difference (now when using it to route clean +5VDC LPS power to the LEX - of the Startech another story - and of course that could be accomplished with a split USB cable directly to a TeraDak X1).
 
Yes the Mutec needs to 'see' 5VDC on the usb  - but runs on AC.  It was a nice upgrade over the F-1 (no need for the TeraDAK or DC iPur).  In this case using both power and data legs of the 2G into the PC USB ports.  (I know this is not recommended or optimal - but it was what was requested).
 
But still far from the uber chain with the F-1.

 
Thank you Rob for the effort. I know it's not easy to downgrade the audio chain
 
But to be clear. In these setups the Mutec (alone) was better than F1 powered from Teradak DC30W?
And using PPA in both cases makes small change?

 

[roger7]

  I may call BURL and ask them to do a DANTE BKII SPDIF box - they are small enough to possibly listen.  They already have it implemented in their B2 Bomber DAC:
 
http://burlaudio.com/products/b2-bomber-dac
 




What's weird I don't see the DANTE Brooklyn II card?   Is it under the BURL board?
 
Should  look like this:

 
For me the "naked" one looks like different version without Ethernet socket

 

[rb2013]

   
For me the "naked" one looks like different version without Ethernet socket

Yes - and the second naked one is not the BURL but another device.  I just posted it to show what is missing in the B2 photo.
 
I'm going to call BURL tomorrow and pick his brain - see what I get for $250 if I buy his Brooklyn 2 card.
 
Maybe he has a simple solution to hook it up for 2 channel spdif or AES.   Or could rig one up with out having to go through his DAC board.  That would be ideal.
 
http://www.lunchboxaudio.com/burl-audio-dante-brooklyn-ii-card-for-b2-bomber-bmb3-80-mothership/

 

[sbgk]

 
Well KS is not going to happen - the DANTE s/w just tricks the player software/PC into thinking it's a USB like ASIO. 
 
All ASIO means is 'Audio Stream Input Output'  - now the Theyscon XMOS ASIO's are all a bit different.  As were the Hi-Face and Amerno.
 
Interesting my JPlay 6.2 uses KS then presents as ASIO to the player - which is it?
 
With these AOIP - it's such a seachange - we have to force our USB thinking to change.  The same rules don't apply.
 
I better support this - before Alex 'corrects' me with some weird hybrid modification of the std done in some dank audio engineer's basement and then sold on line...just kidding bro'

 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Stream_Input/Output

think jplay uses a virtual ks wavert device to access low level memory for it's engines, then outputs via ASIO 

 

[Sanlitun]

My F1 arrived yesterday and I have had a brief time to give it a listen. Running it with a iFi Gemini cable split off to a separate power supply.
 
The board is very impressive considering its $200 cost. You could easily spend $2000 somewhere else and not get these results. 
 
It's quite radical really, one of the biggest evolutionary changes for me since perhaps hearing a Bakoon amp for the first time. 
 
I'm quite happy as I had figured it would be only a minor gain over the Audiophilleo.

 

[seeteeyou]

  Thinking of heading down to Audinate in Portland and speaking with them on the Ultimo DANTE chip - get a sample and send to Singxer to build our F-1 ASE67 device.
 
Take the XMOS out and redesign around the Ultimo - replace the USB with a RJ45 - add a DC power port.
 
How does that sound?

 
It kinda put me off after reading stuff like this below
 
Any interested LAN Audio Interface based on Dante network?
 
Anyways please kindly give that a shot and let us know how it goes.
 

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If that weren't getting very far, we could still opt for something more opened / less proprietary such as XMOS Ethernet AVB since it's already part of the xCORE family.
 
And you did post something about XK-AUDIO-216-MC-AB here
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/803111/xmos-xu208-usb-bridges-the-latest-gen-has-arrived/195#post_12495770
 
Pretty good deal for 300 bucks, just send this one to Singxer if they're interested in expanding their offerings?
 
http://www.xmos.com/products/networked-audio/solutions
https://octopart.com/xk-audio-216-mc-ab-xmos-59209066
http://www.xmos.com/support/boards?product=18334
http://www.xmos.com/buy?product=18334
 
https://www.xcore.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3511
https://www.xmos.com/download/private/AVB-Audio-Endpoint-Product-Brief(1.5).pdf
https://www.xmos.com/download/private/AVB-Daisy-Chain-Design-Guide(1.0.6rc0.b).pdf
 

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XK-AVB-LC-SYS
http://datasheet.octopart.com/XK-AVB-LC-SYS-XMOS-datasheet-17545207.pdf
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/xmos/XK-AVB-LC-SYS/880-1033-ND/2472196
http://www.newark.com/xmos/xk-avb-lc-sys/reference-design-kit-audio-video/dp/07X2000
 

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Ethernet AVB/TSN Library
http://www.xmos.com/support/software/tsn
 
GitHub - AVnu/Open-AVB: Open AVB - an AVnu sponsored repository for Audio/Video Bridging technology
https://github.com/AVnu/Open-AVB
 
Certified Products | AVnu Alliance
http://avnu.org/certified-products/
 
AVnu: Open source software for AVB/TSN
https://standards.ieee.org/events/automotive/2015/09_AVnu_Open_Source_Software_for_AVB-TSN.pdf
 
Some folks from Marlborough, MA might know more about the implementation
 
http://www.sonilan.com
 

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What's the difference between AES50, AVB, Dante, etc?
https://www.reddit.com/r/livesound/comments/3rn96z
 

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