[Soundbuff]

8 1/2 months...but how much time will she actually serve w/good behavior? Should've got at least a full year

 

[Gigabomber]

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Originally Posted by kramer5150 IMHO Ebay should do more to protect buyers. IMHO they should can this guys account for example. Garrett

I was thinking about this objectively as well from a pure fraud potential since I have been pretty lucky with buys. It seems to me that ebay is becoming scam central for the internet. Lot of people just simply market things at inflated prices and decieve buyers into buying a picture of said products instead of the actual products. This ties in with the lack of community responsibility evident in the other lounge thread about the iaudio X5, where this poster got one for "free" cause of a clerical error.

It doesn't seem to be a matter of accounts as people may always obtain another account, it is just a matter of ebay hiring more people and poking around the auctions and accounts instead of just taking our cash in each transaction.

 

[immtbiker]

We are working hard to make sure this never happens at Head-Fi.
Beware of Junior members with links in their posts that send you astray, and incredibly good deals. Free this, and click on my link so I make a hit, sort of stuff. They are fly-by-nighters, and need to be shut down immediately.
Audiogon and Head-Fi are the antithesis of EBay.

I've bid on items, and get 5 or 6 emails after the auction is over, telling me the buyer dropped out, or they have more at the same price....and they all have different e-mail addresses.

Buyer Beware.

 

[Edwood]

If they don't list it in their auction, always always ask if the item is guaranteed to be not DOA (Dead On Arrival).

Make a habit of asking a question from the seller on eBay. If they don't take the time to respond, I don't take the time to bid.

-Ed

 

[DJ Mauler]

good they should have sentenced her to 5+ years, in Ram in me in the A@@ prison, one thing to steal from some company that to take peoples cash like that.

 

[rickcr42]

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8 1/2 months...but how much time will she actually serve w/good behavior? Should've got at least a full year

Even if only half that it will still be jail time and no joke.This alone is enough to wake up a normal person but hard core criminals,and this person may be one from the history,feel jail is no more of a harship than a mini-break between crimes.
In my town there used to be a listing of every single arrest and crime against property.It was readily apparent to any idiot that the same names would keep popping up and some began to wonder out loud (via the community pages) why these creeps were not in jail because it was obvious they while being small in number committed the majority of the crimes.A simple "lock up the criminals" thing.
The "fix" was to no longer report any crimes or arrests other than DUI type crimes.To look at the local police blotter one would think crime has stopped in my area because everyone is too drunk to steal anything but the truth is drunk drivers get a manditory minimum sentence in my state with zero wiggle room due to the clout of MADD but actual criminals get released on average after doing 25-30% of their bid.That means even stiff sentence has little actual bite or pain for even repeat offenders so they are not only free to do it again but in their mind they are untouchable and have a free pass.A get out of jail free card and they do !

All about folks wailing about too many being in prison,wharehousing humanity,building prisons instead of schools,rehabilitation over punishment.All the "popular" rants that in the end do no more than release convicted criminals back to the streets to do it again.


And since it is so rampant it just will not do to post this in the local papers .Having the raw reality of this in your face with your morning doffee just will not do so they just report on the "drunks" and "druggies" while the crooks get released and creep around with a liscence to streal at will.

Jail should be a painful lesson and not a way to screw the system to continue crimes but that is where our justice system is at.Feel sorry for the criminal while the rest of us lock down and try to secure ourselves and personal property.

Sermonette over.................

 

[ACAVant]

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Originally Posted by Jmmmmm Ebay is so run over with fraud now. Try selling a computer on there, see how many emails from people from south africa you get.

I bought a PC off ebay... not the smartest move. Got screwed. Seller had a list of software for the PC... guess what. All pirated. Thanks. Speakers included. Speakers in the picture. No speakers delivered. Send an email to say What only to receive no reply. This dude has also cancelled his ebay account. You could be as careful as all get go... but people still lie. The PC was as described. Works and everything. Just dodgy software and the speakers. I got 400 bucks worth of laughs out of the photos he left on the hard drive though!

 

[Enverxis]

i was ripped off twice in a row on the same item, then i found a seller on the item i wanted with 100% feedback, no problems there

 

[Ttvetjanu]

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TERRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE, TRIED TO PAY NEVER ANSWERED EMAILS. TERRIBLE EBAYER Reply by bargaindepot04: We offer a 7 day Money Back Guarantee - if you are not happy bad biz! cancelled order w/o explanation and replied after 3 days!!! Reply by bargaindepot04: If you are not happy, we offer a 7 day MONEY BACK

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[10068]

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Originally Posted by rickcr42 All the "popular" rants that in the end do no more than release convicted criminals back to the streets to do it again.

Yeah, it's really a shame.

I mean on one hand, I understand where they're coming from... i've said/done some messed up things in my life, and I even threatened to kill my ex one time

Technically I could have gone to jail for that. But as you say, that would probably have been a wakeup as anything else. My personal theory is that everyone grows up eventually (well unless they die young), just that when not given the correct stimulus, some grow up really slow

And giving the attitude that jail is no big deal, does not at all encourage them to grow. I think reading in jail should be MANDATORY. I think seeing a Pastor should be MANDATORY. Convert them into civilized, educated, enlightened members of society. Afterall most of them are capable of it. Rick I think even you will admit that these days, the prisons are mostly filled with harmless "gangbangers" who just want to maintain some stupid image, or drug pushers or whatever. Clean them up, learn them some things (like momma should've), and send them out into the world. I don't think many people are actually truly evil and unfixable. But if they are, leave em in jail, yeah. I don't mind.

 

[Ttvetjanu]

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Originally Posted by Sduibek Yeah, it's really a shame. I mean on one hand, I understand where they're coming from... i've said/done some messed up things in my life, and I even threatened to kill my ex one time Technically I could have gone to jail for that. But as you say, that would probably have been a wakeup as anything else. My personal theory is that everyone grows up eventually (well unless they die young), just that when not given the correct stimulus, some grow up really slow And giving the attitude that jail is no big deal, does not at all encourage them to grow. I think reading in jail should be MANDATORY. I think seeing a Pastor should be MANDATORY. Convert them into civilized, educated, enlightened members of society. Afterall most of them are capable of it. Rick I think even you will admit that these days, the prisons are mostly filled with harmless "gangbangers" who just want to maintain some stupid image, or drug pushers or whatever. Clean them up, learn them some things (like momma should've), and send them out into the world. I don't think many people are actually truly evil and unfixable. But if they are, leave em in jail, yeah. I don't mind.

Those that are "evil" are generally mentally ill or have become it through many reasons (abuse, being ignored, etc.)

What are required are people that are specialised in this issue, providing support and analysis which shows what is "needed" for the conversion. I think that this might become the future.

Now, what if someone is robbing a store or stealing items because they need money to survive? Where should the line be drawn? Where will the money come from if your only income is from stealing?

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I think reading in jail should be MANDATORY

What if you are unable to read?

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a Pastor should be MANDATORY

Why?

I hate to say this but being an atheist I feel that to be a good citizen you do not need to belive in any religion whatsoever (I'll stop here).

 

[10068]

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Originally Posted by Ttvetjanu Those that are "evil" are generally mentally ill or have become it through many reasons (abuse, being ignored, etc.)

That does not excuse their actions. I am mentally ill. Does that mean i'm allowed special boundaries in moral behavior?

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What are required are people that are specialised in this issue, providing support and analysis which shows what is "needed" for the conversion.

We already have mental health specialists and the like. Some people (sociopaths for example) are too far gone for this to help. But I agree that more of these types of workers, working directly with inmates (especially gangbanger and drug-pusher types) would make a clear positive difference.

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Now, what if someone is robbing a store or stealing items because they need money to survive? Where should the line be drawn? Where will the money come from if your only income is from stealing?

Ummm.. are you serious? Welfare. If they are too lazy to get state-funded support that doesn't justify breaking the law.

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What if you are unable to read?

Teach them how. That's what i'm saying, give them an education instead of just throwing them in a cell to rot and get raped.

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Why?

I believe religion in prison is mandatory because it connects them to some rhyme and reason in their life. Atheist or not, i'm sure you can understand people having a goal to shoot for. Many of those in prison have none, and giving them a "higher power" of sorts would be great for them, because now they actually have a reason to put their lives back together. Why do you think they speak of "higher powers" in Alcoholics Anonymous and Rehab centers? Because people like that need it to get better. And it does, it turns their entire life around.

 

[Ttvetjanu]

Thanks, I was expecting for this sort of answer.

What should be done about all these "free" mentally ill people, I mean, after "we've" found them, its about treatment. It's a hard question to tackle. Maybe have a questionnare done that every single person should do?

Now, not all countries have wellfare, besides, some people have the problem that someone in their family, e.g. the dad, uses it all on booze.

I do agree that religion gives a sense of goal and increased awareness in morals, but I do think that it will be the persons own choice whether or not to talk with a pastor.

Some people get "grown" into lives they really don't want to. Prisons may "break" them from this life, but I'm doubt it will always work. Especially people that are tangled into gangs that they return to after prison time.

Give the people a chance to chose a new life with a new name?

 

[mbriant]

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I saw something new the other day. A seller who had about 30 of the same item up for sale.. one of those $10 for the item, $30 for shipping deals - you know the type.

I just bought two plaster of paris fridge magnet dog heads from a guy for 99 cents each. Each one, even though they were shipped together, cost $6.50 to ship....$13.00 total for basic parcel airmail shipping. The guy did make the shipping charges clear in his ad however.

It was obvious he's making his money on the shipping charges. This sales method isn't fraudulent, but it's certainly manipulative and somewhat misleading. At first I thought his scheme was to trick unsuspecting bidders who didn't read the entire ad ( shipping info) into thinking they were getting a great deal ... and it probably is. But there's another angle to it I think. I'm not certain, but I believe some of E-Bay's seller's charges are derived from the listed selling price ... not including shipping. So if you list and sell the item for next to nothing, and make your profit on high shipping charges, you wind up paying less commission to E-Bay for your ads.

Clever, but misleading.

Both arrived with the ears broken. The shipping box was not damaged at all, so it was clearly the fault of the shipper's bad packaging. Now he wants me to ship back the $1.98 worth of broken plaster at my expense ( Toronto to Texas ) before he'll replace them. I'm fighting with him now.

 

[adhoc]

ouch mbriant - you have my sympathy. i find it amazing that you can encounter such problems with Toronto-to-Texas when i've had vacuum tubes ship problem-free across 2 oceans.

i guess i've been fortunate so far - a mixture of over 55 successful buying and selling transactions and i've still got perfect feedback.

as for sellers located overseas, just remember this golden rule - if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.