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To play devil's advocate -- yes, IE6 is awful and should die. IE7 and IE8 (with most recent patches/updates/etc) honestly aren't terrible. Would I choose to use them over Chrome, FF, Opera, etc? Probably not. If it's my only option(s), would I cry? Nope. They do what they need to do, and are faster and more secure than previous incarnations of IE. IE still kinda sucks, but it doesn't suck nearly as much as it used to. That being said, there's still some stuff that is RIDICULOUS about IE -- for example when asking to save a UN/PW combo, even in IE8 it still takes up the whole screen (in terms of I/O UI access) and if you say No, you have to clear ALL Passwords stored if you change your mind and want to store that one instead. Anyway, just sayin'.... IE is not great but it's not as bad as it once was in 5.x or 6.x Now it's... bad instead of awful. lol
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IE7 & 8 are still awful, just ask any web developer
. While all the other mainstream browsers strive to support new web standards and features, IE continues to ignore them, in same cases even creating proprietary, non-standard, and sub-par alternatives. The Acid3 test, which tests a browsers' conformance to various web standards, is proof that IE continues to lag behind every other browser. (I love when people use Mac or Linux rather than Windows because I know they don't even have the possibility of using IE
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But they don't have the addons that makes them superfast and safe on the other hand. What is safest or most secure? Firefox + a lot of addons or a normal stock browser? That would be interesting to know. I know that other browsers outperforms firefox on some performance benchmarks, but I feel that they are slower IRL when firefox uses some addons.
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Addons can slow down Firefox, actually, especially if they're badly programmed. They add another layer of processing and use more memory, though some (like NoScript and FlashBlock) remove more processing than they create anyway. But the issue is that while NoScript will speed up the loading of many sites, the sites that matter most (the ones you visit and use the most) are likely to be on NoScript's whitelist, in which case Firefox is still slower than Chrome anyway. I said it before: it just doesn't make sense to compare Firefox's performance with addons to another browser.
As far as security, NoScript will certainly increase security from many attacks, but it's too much of a nuisance for many (including myself).
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What's the consensus about switching from FireFox? I've been using Firefox for years, and if i'm going to get serious about switching to either Chrome 4x or Opera 10x i'm not sure which would be "most similar" to a user very familiar with FF...
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While I seem to have been advocating Chrome a lot, I'm a diehard Firefox user. I'm too dependent on various addons to switch. Once Chrome's plugin system stops sucking and there's actually plugins for it I'd switch. If you can live without the addons, I'd say go for it. I've never been an Opera fan, always found its interface unappealing and cluttered; though, Opera's current pre-alpha has the fastest JS rendering at the moment.