No surprises then from the anti-cable crowd then.
Not one of them has answered my question - have you had a hearing test? if you don't know to what extent your hearing is impaired or otherwise of what value is your opinion both to yourself or anyone else. Indeed since so many can hear differences with cables if I was an anti-cable person I would immediately ask myself that question. To not ask that question which is both reasonable and rational implies you have a 'blind faith' in your ability to hear and is entirely un-scientific, or you are too frightened to find out. Imagine spouting anti-cable Kant for years and then finding out your hearing is crap.
I do not need to take a hearing test. I am 52 so I know that my hearing will not be great, however I have tested it and it is as predicted symptomatic of my age with a high frequency cut off above 15K but with no significant gaps below that point, that said I am more than happy for folks with **much** better hearing than mine to do DBTs on cables, oh hang on they have and nobody has found a difference yet. If your hearing is so much better you are most welcome to test your powers of discrimination with the samples provided on my cables thread earlier. Just tell us how many times you correctly differentiate a difference between them, 10 trial at least please.
No anti-cabler has answered my very simple questiuons about how an EGMS presents itself in space-time or how it travels via an i/c from start to finish - from which we can deduce that they hav'nt got a clue. If you really want to understand how anything actually works and to gain an in depth knowledge of the procedure then you must start with the very basic structure of the materials involved and yes an EGMS does have a structure just like any other form of energy be it gas/liquid or solid - though in reality nothing is actually solid since everything that exists is dancing an 'atomic dance' - for a better understanding there are many books available for the layman to understand particle physics, one such is the brilliantly written (easy to understand) - The Dancing Wu-Li Masters.
No one answered it because it was frankly irrelevant to the question under discussion.
Does copper/silver/SPC/aluminium/carbon behave differently when an EGMS travels through it - be it a cable or a cap or resistor. I'm being very specific in always using an electrically generated musical signal as the basis because that is what we are dealing with, so many are presenting suedo-intellectual arguments that are fine for use in a philisophical debate but not here on an audio specific forum.One such said that resistors are made to different tolerances and that they would then 'sound' different - EXACTLY - same goes for cables.
Some have raised the entirely appropriate point that it is not our ears which hear but the individual's brain. So, the individual hears through all the filters that they have aquired in living, through education/training/family/DNA etc. - that is what actually is hearing the music - all your life experience, the whole thing is what is actually listening to the music. The more rigid you are in how you 'look at or listen to ' life will determine what you hear or don't hear.
I found it ludicrous when the anti-cable crowd hide behind 'statistics'. I had an uncle who was a professional soldier before WW11. He knew that the suedo-intellectuals would die first - unable to deal with 'life in the moment' but what surprised him was how so many of his best intelligence gatherers/forward patrols were made up of men who had spent the whole of their lives before the war living in the east end of London - the poor could'nt afford holidays in the country, indeed could'nt afford holidays at all. A forward patrol literally lives or dies by it's ability to extract the maximum info from everything that is going on around them - the ability to hear is crucial to staying alive and here were these East-Enders who had lived their lives in noisy environments yet, when nec. developed 'bat's ears'. Many of these men who survived the war, simply could'nt handle the noisy city and made lives for themselves in the country. When I worked breifly in Franco's fascist Spain I ran into a bunch of WW11 American vets in Pamplona. Guess what, there was a CSM (same rank as my uncle) who had exactly the same experience with men who had never left New York city before the war. Both these English and Yanks 'developed' the ability to hear - it meant the difference between life and death.
Please learn to spell pseudo - it is starting to grate a bit. Is this anecdote going anywhere, no didn't think so. As for statistics, this is so important I am appalled you even raise this as a question. Individuals can guess correctly once, twice, three or four times. This is not good evidence. Good evidence is lots of folks able/unable to correctly discriminate over many many trials so that the probability of guessing is reduced to very low levels.
On another thread is a guy called downsize - he ran a hi-fi business and as he said all his salesmen could tell the difference between cables - it's called training.His advice for those who cannot hear the differences with cables - take up another hobby.
This is what is called an anecdote
Someone said my last post was emotional, not by my standards it was'nt but it said a lot about them - listen up - music should be an emotional experience if it's not are you sure your engaged in the right hobby?
So come on all the anti-cablers at least have the balls to say whether you have ever had a hearing test or not. If you run away from this question all you are doing is exposing your fear, which is probably the basis for your anti-cable views. Take the test and be truthful with the results - you claim to stand by the science - now test your hearing and let us know.
My samples include a 77c unshielded cable and one that is over two orders of magnitude more expensive, you must surely be able to tell them apart to at least 9/10 - please try it.
