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Reviewerus Prolificus
Some modern records, and perhaps Death Magnetic although I do not know for sure, use the original digital master as the source - and so if that was recorded with brickwall levels, the vinyl will be, too.
Originally Posted by Publius /img/forum/go_quote.gif I've compared ~6 non-audiophile new releases on LP vs CD (when the two were released simultaneously), across 2 or 3 different labels, and did not find any evidence to support the claim that the vinyl master did not use the CD master. Obviously that's not a great sample set |
Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif maybe I can make 15" mp3's of my two files? I dunno what the rules are. |
Originally Posted by Publius /img/forum/go_quote.gif However, that is not immediately obvious with a zoomed-out waveform plot, because various (unrelated) effects of LP mastering/playback mean that the "flat tops" of clipped signal on the CD become skewed, and no longer reaching peak value, on LP. |
Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif well, we both haven't compared many releases anyway...that magnetic hard rock thingie is clipped to death on CD and LP, and not in that video game? |
that Lee Fields album is hard clipped on the CD, but not on the LP...and not in the previous compilations either. this dub album is clipped in the Island edition, but not in the Hip'o'Select: Super Ape there's no hard rule indeed...we need more samples |
but I don't listen to comtemporary music anyway...and I can't be hassled to buy vinyls in 2010. it's like video games piracy, those who pay the full price always get jacked in the end...they want it loud to appeal to the ipod community, fine! |
> From: info<<<<AT>>>>truthandsoulrecords.com > Subject: Re: Lee Fields - My World = why so loud?! > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:26:01 -0400 > To: leeperry > > Hey, > Sorry your not enjoying the mastering of the cd, and we do appreciate you purchasing the album, but unfortunately that is the only version we have at the moment. > Have you listened to the vinyl version? It was mastered differently. > Jeff |
Originally Posted by Shark_Jump /img/forum/go_quote.gif I would like to listen to a prime example of loud vs non loud. Does anyone know two identical tracks where one has been seriously louded up? |
Originally Posted by Pio2001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hello, I've got a lot of examples. What would you like to hear ? An overcompressed track ? With more bass because of the boom-boom hype ? Less bass because the compression killed them ? A properly remastered one, with just some soft limiting and tonal balance adjustement ? A terrible analog tape restoration, while the original CD sounded good ? A song that doesn't suffer from overcompression ?... |
Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif humm, it's not the studio guys fault AT ALL |
Originally Posted by Shark_Jump /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well if you have an original track and an identical one that has been severely compressed it would be good, |
Originally Posted by Shark_Jump /img/forum/go_quote.gif With all those examples you could start a loudness hall of shame. |
Originally Posted by LFF /img/forum/go_quote.gif Of course it's not! |
Originally Posted by Pio2001 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Ok, I'm looking at it tonight CET. |
Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif well, they still pursue old war criminals...when they were just following orders, so maybe it's the studio guys fault after all but again and again, the market forces the record companies to compress their music to death...it's not a wise *ss mastering engineer that decides to kill the music on his own. |