[ywd]

When you pay nothing for something, no matter how good or bad it is, it is an infinitely good value. The nothing that you paid for the ibuds gives you infinite value per dollar.

This only applies if you got them free w/ ipod, btw.

 

[feh1325]

included with the price of an ipod

 

[TheStig]

If you're saying that, then the ones that come with the sansa are about 3-5x better than the ibuds.

 

[wnmnkh]

Iriver used to put MX400 as their bundle earphones.

 

[lutwey]

ibuds are decent earphones, but i think they are made not to last in purpose. yeah ill take it 'cause it's free but would rarely use it

 

[BrookR1]

I would have gladly taken a $10 discount on my iPod and let Apple keep the ibuds.

 

[QwertyAccess]

actually, the best value in headphones by your method would be the zune's earphones. The Zune's earphones that come packaged with it are much nicer then the ibuds.

 

[kramer5150]

... not if you measure dollar value in

's and

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[kite7]

Nothing is free, things use up resources

 

[feh1325]

Quote:

Originally Posted by kite7 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Nothing is free, things use up resources

not my minerals and vespene gas!

 

[LaBreaHead]

Buds are a revelation -- for people who have never heard any kind of headphone before. I admit that, even factoring in their "value" in the price of the DAP, buds are a good value in a sense ... but I don't think the "one size fits all" approach works. For many people, they're too large, and for me they just don't fit securely. Noise leaks in, music leaks out, my ears get irritated ...

Maybe instead of bundled buds, some players could come with a coupon for a discount off that manufacturer's -- or an affiliated manufacturer's -- earphones or headphones (if the intent is to make a little money off of earphones ... and I realize that some players should come with earphones, for first-time buyers and people who find even the Marshmallow, Sonys and Creatives "pricey"). Otherwise, as BrookR1 said, just charge $10 less.

 

[PeterDLai]

Quote:

Originally Posted by feh1325 /img/forum/go_quote.gif not my minerals and vespene gas!

FOR AIUR!

 

[bebanovich]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ywd /img/forum/go_quote.gif When you pay nothing for something, no matter how good or bad it is, it is an infinitely good value. The nothing that you paid for the ibuds gives you infinite value per dollar. This only applies if you got them free w/ ipod, btw.

Ahh, the marketers are winning. Just because something is included in a package that you paid for doesn't make it free. Is the click wheel on an iPod free? How about the headphone jack? Marketers make you think they are doing you a favor by including items that essentially entice people into buying it in the first place.

 

[manhattanproj]

the zune buds are actually pretty good. you wouldnt think it's stock bud kinda good.

 

[Icarium]

I think I stopped buying for "value" the minute I started buying headphones. I buy for sound.