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I haven't been in an actual fight outside of any organized fighting really... Worst I've got is a few chipped teeth and bruised bones, hahaha. I really hope I don't have to fight outside a spar anytime in my life (though I wouldn't be surprised if I would have to)
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I would hate to get into a fight outside the realistic enough spars I get into in
Systema. I don't like the idea of fighting under 99% of circumstances and I don't approve of violence "in general", so I would have to agree. Under the 1% of circumstances where it's called for though, I'm vicious, because that's the only way it could ever be. If you are forced to fight, you fight for life and nothing else exists. It's you and your opponent, morals and ideals are gone until the fight is over.
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That's really messed up. If that ever happened to me in the US the next time he saw me would be on the safe side of the pistol pointed at his kneecaps. I know, that's messed up too, but seriously, knocking you unconscious then continuing to smash your face when you tried to prevent a fight?
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Completely understandable, I'm taught well to incapacitate the opponent, but quite literally further damaging the person after they're down and unconscious is simply unnecessary in almost all situations. Unless you need to escape imprisonment or captivity and you require that person to be unconscious and disabled for long period of time (or unless you're just a sick **** that likes to hurt people), there is really no point in continuing after they are down.
From personal experience - aside from getting my lower lip busted to badly bleeding twice in the same 90 minute Systema class, I would have to say the worst fight I've been in was when three people tried to jump me in a park. I didn't have proper training (Systema training, because that's the only one that really helped in comparison to all else), I panicked and in not keeping a clear head and with emotion instead of reason and logic, I didn't fight them one at a time by trying to control the situation in that fashion - I got somewhat hurt, but with 3 years of Karate, 2 years of KickBoxing and 6 months of Muay Thai, I wasn't harmless and got to hurt two of the opponents enough to leave me alone. Unlike traditional sparring, street fighting with untrained opponents usually tends to be a lot of wild and fast swinging with un-aimed and uncontrolled impacts that all try to concentrate on the front of the face. This isn't always the most effective technique and certainly (and luckily) didn't prove useful against me. Lucky for me, these punks didn't know what they were doing except to keep swinging and trying to "Ground and Pound" (which is effective if you fall and cower against a strong barrage), but luckily I can kick hard to down an opponent with a Muay Thai down-kick to the knee to disable one opponent and hit hard enough in the throat to disable another to not have to face much damage in the process. It was not a fast fight and until I got my bearing (facing my fears and starting to think of how to get through it), it was at least 10 minutes of torture before things turned and I got the two people hurt enough to let them know I wouldn't back down and let them hurt me.
From some training later, there is one very important lesson I must share with you all - never give up! You have no choice! Come with everything you have or you may not live to regret it, people don't attack you to get a tap-out or count boxing points, fights go on as long as they have to, meaning they don't stop until the victor feels like stopping bashing the failure into the ground. Don't be the failure and don't most importantly don't fight if you can avoid it, nobody really wins.
