[Stevko]

Think i skip it. Too much fright

 

[bigshot]

Just amp it.

 

[Stevko]

Yeea. Think an apple dongle an the new nx7 should work great….

 

[bigshot]

I use a c-moy altoids tin amp sometimes. It cost me $75 and it sounds great.

 

[gregorio]

The million dollar question: if there is a european limitation, is it set in the dongle or handled by the euro phone config that recognizes the dongle and lowers the digital level?

The European dongle is a different version and I assumed it was different hardware. If it’s the same hardware as the US dongle, just with different firmware instructing the host (phone) to output a lower digital level, then the European dongle would potentially have an output level higher than the regulations permit. Although, I it would depend on exactly how the regulations are worded (and interpreted). From Apple’s side, I presume it would be a lot simpler if both dongle versions had identical hardware, just different firmware.

In short, good point/question and I don’t know the answer.

G

 

[Davesrose]

The European dongle is a different version and I assumed it was different hardware. If it’s the same hardware as the US dongle, just with different firmware instructing the host (phone) to output a lower digital level, then the European dongle would potentially have an output level higher than the regulations permit. Although, I it would depend on exactly how the regulations are worded (and interpreted). From Apple’s side, I presume it would be a lot simpler if both dongle versions had identical hardware, just different firmware.

In short, good point/question and I don’t know the answer.

G

I would think that if Apple has a difference in devices in EU vs US, it would have to do with EC regulations. Just a quick search, consensus is that there is a limitation with EU vs US when it comes to the USB-C to headphone out (for iPad). "Hardware limitation because of EU laws yes. US/intl is 1Vrms, while the EU is 0.5Vrms iirc.". So if it's more hardware voltage, "A2049 (US version). The other version from EU has a code of A2155." Or MFR (from what I see on B&H):

US version: MU7E2AM/A

EU version: MU7E2ZM/A

 

[Stevko]

Where can european people buy US ver?

 

[SoundAndMotion]

Where can european people buy US ver?

I can think of 3 options, but the first 2 may not be legal... I don't know.
1- Buy online in the US and pay for shipping to you.
2- Have a friend buy it there and send or bring it here.
3- If you ever go there, be patient and buy on your next trip.

Edit: we do all 3... often.

 

[SoundAndMotion]

Where can european people buy US ver?

eBay 5.35€ + 11.98€ shipping

 

[Stevko]

Now I only own 32ohm cans/easy to drive.(sold all my cans over 32ohm)
A B tested som apple gear.
Sound pretty good.
Can’t hear any difference between all these ios gear in sound quality. The ipad have more power,thats all.
My portable tr-amp sound the same…
Not sure if i need it more.

 

[bigshot]

My cans are 32 ohms too. Much simpler.

 

[Stevko]

My cans are 32 ohms too. Much simpler.

Yes. Easy peasy.
An ipad is all I need.
This ipad 5 sounds pretty good! Any better ipad?(this is my wifes ipad)

 

[Stevko]

How much is the output power from an ipad? 1V?
An apple dongle,ipod must be less! Use about 20-30% less volume when listen to music on the ipad.

 

[Stevko]

Doing some reaserch:
Ipad5:
Apple 343S00144-A0 and 338S1213 power management and audio codec respectively

Ipad 6:
Cirrus Logic CS42L83A low power audio codec
Whats best?

 

[bigshot]

All Apple products I've bought (and I've bought a lot of them over the years!) have been audibly transparent. They all sound the same- perfect. I highly doubt there is any audible difference between the iPad 5 & 6. Choose based on features because the sound is almost certainly the same.