Prog Rock Man
Headphoneus Supremus
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Open cans make for a wider soundstage and less sweaty ears. Closed cans isolate and often have more oomph from the bass. Generalisations, but on the whole true.
dynamat only works within a relatively small bandwidth and it has a limited effectiveness. It doesnt eliminate resonances, it dampens some of them.
also,there is the bass issue. you can't get hardcore bass and punch from an open headphone like you can with a closed one,at least i didn't heard one that can.
is it impossible to produce such rumbling bass with an open headphone? if it's true,than it must say that open headphones are not just "the easy way out" cause you actually missing something here.
if you want accuracy – also at low frequencies – open headphones are the way to go. If you want hardcore bass, closed headphones are the way to go.
way too generalizing IMO...you can get a very clear and aerial bass on closed phones...did you hear a cd3k/r10 at all?
I'll give you that the cd3k(haven't heard the r10) is more semi-open than hard closed like a dt770...its isolation is nowhere near as high.
so I think we can reach a compromise and make everyone happy:
-open phones are for the chicken companies that can't afford the R&D required for semi-open
-true closed phones have a very high isolation(DT770/Pro comes to mind, you could almost use it on a shooting stand), which allows for a true "bass reflex" system towards the skull to make the bassheads happy...but SS imaging is usually lousy. They're the best choice to record vocals in a studio, though.
-semi-open takes the best of both worlds, and requires a lot more R&D...but when properly engineered they can compete w/ nothing but the best headphones.
What are the benefits to sound isolation with full size phones? I know for noisy environments, its very crucial. Although my HD650 is open, I've noticed that with the drivers being so closed to the ears, outside noise does not interfere with what is being outputted by the drivers, unless the power of the outside noise is comparable. From an engineering stand point, if it takes less time and money to design a great sounding headphones why force yourself to go the more difficult route? I am still wondering if isolated phones provide better environmental effects. I thought that was mainly up to the EQ. If musical headphones provide good detail, wouldn't it provide good details for movies, games etc? Also isn't 3D sound caused by phase of the signal?
What are the benefits to sound isolation with full size phones? I know for noisy environments, its very crucial. Although my HD650 is open, I've noticed that with the drivers being so closed to the ears, outside noise does not interfere with what is being outputted by the drivers, unless the power of the outside noise is comparable. From an engineering stand point, if it takes less time and money to design a great sounding headphones why force yourself to go the more difficult route? I am still wondering if isolated phones provide better environmental effects. I thought that was mainly up to the EQ. If musical headphones provide good detail, wouldn't it provide good details for movies, games etc? Also isn't 3D sound caused by phase of the signal?
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Quite frankly, I really don't see the point to use Dynamat in a headphone enclosure...especially the new version w/ the foil lining as this will make the trebles spikey and metallic.