| Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif what's the value in that? Maybe we should take apart an HE90 and display how Sennheiser can sell a collection of seemingly inexpensive parts for $5k Even better, why don't we take apart an edition9 and trying to ascertain how can companies charge $1000 for a collection of plastic parts and some copper wires. why don't you fund those 2 projects...I bet we can make it a sticky
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| Originally Posted by colonelkernel8 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I can safely bet a whole lot more effort, research, and thought went into making either of those headphones. Considering 90%+ of the parts had to actually be designed and manufactured by the company (or manufactured by a third party exclusively for them), I'd say they were fairly priced. Thats even before you LISTEN to those headphones. You cannot judge the value of it by its raw materials (plastic, wood) alone, I'm sure the dies that they use probably cost hundreds of thousands of dollars each. Whereas a VD cable is just assembled out of pre-existing low quality parts requiring no engineering AT ALL. I severely doubt they even have a single engineer or anyone with professional scientific knowledge on payroll, yet they claim to be a technology company, bull****. Honestly, I hate these back and forth arguments and I should probably ignore them, but sometimes I can't. |
| Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif why don't you fund those 2 projects...I bet we can make it a sticky
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| Originally Posted by bigshot /img/forum/go_quote.gif furball, you know the next comment is going to be, "you're just jealous because you can't afford a fine cable (read: garden hose filled with birdshot) like this!" See ya Steve |
| Originally Posted by colonelkernel8 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Thats even before you LISTEN to those headphones. You cannot judge the value of it by its raw materials (plastic, wood) alone, |
| Originally Posted by IPodPJ /img/forum/go_quote.gif Exactly the same applies to a VD cable. If you (and several others) actually listened to a few of them before making comments like this, you would realize how foolish you sound. |
| Originally Posted by colonelkernel8 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Im sure, because cable believers tend to violently defend their cases with absolutely no factual evidence. So they just tell us, "If you listen to it, you'd know what I was saying". How can I reply to that? DBT would be ideal, but I can't use that. It kind of unbalances the playing field. Then when we want to argue the science of it, they just say, "Well thats what I'm hearing, the best piece of measuring equipment is your ear." (Acoustic Chef said something to this effect in a PM to me). They just ignore the obvious fact that they are completely wrong in this respect, as measuring equipment is thousands of times more sensitive than the human ear. Then they cite some obscure properties of conductors like skin effect and the like, disregarding the fact that it doesn't have anything to do with the audible frequency range. Though it may make slight differences to the whole picture, these differences are inaudible, regardless of how good you think your hearing is. The list goes on and on. I always wonder why everyone perceives the same differences whenever they buy some uber-cable. Just about everyone claims "tighter bass" and "blacker background" and improved "detail" because thats what they expect from hearing what everyone else has said about a cable. Then good old Mr. Placebo kicks in. Of course I could rant all day, but it is inevitably futile, because common sense takes a back seat to subjectivity when it comes to cables. All this bickering can be solved with DBT. Because they are irrefutable when correctly practiced. |
| Originally Posted by bigshot /img/forum/go_quote.gif furball, you know the next comment is going to be, "you're just jealous because you can't afford a fine cable (read: garden hose filled with birdshot) like this!" See ya Steve |
