What do you think of Vista?
Feb 8, 2008 at 2:17 PM Post #76 of 226
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Originally Posted by wanderman /img/forum/go_quote.gif
why invest so much in a laptop for gaming when you could get a desktop rig and a portable laptop? The desktop will also last longer because you can drop new graphics card/cpu/ram and the laptop will be able to move.


probably a good idea!
 
Feb 12, 2008 at 7:35 PM Post #78 of 226
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Originally Posted by asuka10456 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
vista is eyecandy, xp obviously runs better and faster. I have no idea why people would go to vista now besides to play dx10 games.


Disagreed. Last time I checked, Vista can be set to run as fast as XP, and way more stable than XP on the same hardware. And I have quite a few ideas why people would want to go to Vista other than DX10 games, including being more secure than XP for one.
 
Feb 12, 2008 at 8:01 PM Post #79 of 226
Vista is alright, mostly eyecandy and system hogging/annoying security features though. And you can't even transfer files across a network without it taking all day (literally).

If you don't care about network file transfers, you can use Black Viper's guide to slim down Vista to only taking up ~400 mb of ram instead of the 700 that is comes with out of the box. Maybe this was said earlier in the thread, haven't checked.

I have Vista, but am currently using XP. I thought that a few problems I was having were being caused by Vista (running old games) so I switched to XP. Turns out it wasn't Vista, but older games don't like either my Core 2 Duo or my 8800. Haven't switched back to Vista yet.

Another thing I hate about vista is the inability to see what's going on while defragmenting, or the ability to just defragment one drive.
 
Feb 14, 2008 at 7:10 PM Post #80 of 226
ScanDefrag + JKDefrag + PageDefrag = all you need for defragmenting, for free!

Currently PageDefrag doesn't support Vista. A workaround for defragmenting your pagefile is to disable the pagefile and get rid of the file. Defrag your drive, then recreate the pagefile.
 
Feb 17, 2008 at 6:09 AM Post #82 of 226
To me, XP is more compatable with software AND hardware, and runs more effeciently than vista. There is nothing in Vista I cant do in XP, with the exeption of DX10. (who wants to pay $250 for a good video card anyway?)

But honestly, I dont know why so many people still run Windows. It just seems like people completely forget about the competitors and go straight to Windows. And trust me, the competitors dont "suck".
 
Feb 17, 2008 at 6:46 AM Post #83 of 226
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Originally Posted by EYEdROP /img/forum/go_quote.gif
To me, XP is more compatable with software AND hardware,


Debatable at best. Vista's hardware support has matured nicely. Quote:

and runs more effeciently than vista.


Depends a lot on the system; my desktop runs much more efficiently on Vista thanks to Superfetch. Quote:

There is nothing in Vista I cant do in XP, with the exeption of DX10. (who wants to pay $250 for a good video card anyway?)


Oh, really? Let's see: A true multi-user security model, far less crashes due to better kernel-level code checking and minimum privledges execution on other programs and drivers, file system versioning and individual file restore, file indexing that actually works like it's supposed to....shall I go on? Quote:

But honestly, I dont know why so many people still run Windows. It just seems like people completely forget about the competitors and go straight to Windows. And trust me, the competitors dont "suck".


And neither does Windows. I've used Linux since 2.2; I've explored (and liked) the alternatives, but XP and Vista are both solid OSes.
 
Feb 17, 2008 at 7:11 AM Post #84 of 226
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Originally Posted by Arainach /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Debatable at best. Vista's hardware support has matured nicely.Depends a lot on the system; my desktop runs much more efficiently on Vista thanks to Superfetch.Oh, really? Let's see: A true multi-user security model, far less crashes due to better kernel-level code checking and minimum privledges execution on other programs and drivers, file system versioning and individual file restore, file indexing that actually works like it's supposed to....shall I go on?And neither does Windows. I've used Linux since 2.2; I've explored (and liked) the alternatives, but XP and Vista are both solid OSes.


I agree with everything except for the true multiuser part. Last time I checked, Windows still has an NT base, which its kernel is blocked from the user. I like the control of *NIX based machines and being able to tell it what it can and cant run. Even with Vistas UAC, the kernel can still get tricked into running something its not supposed to (such as a virus). Yeah, all of the OS's have pro's and cons. But seriously, I think most average computer users would have a better expierience on a Mac. They just dont know it because Windows is all they know, and Macs suck because thats what they heard.
 
Feb 17, 2008 at 7:58 AM Post #85 of 226
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Originally Posted by EYEdROP /img/forum/go_quote.gif
To me, XP is more compatable with software AND hardware, and runs more effeciently than vista. There is nothing in Vista I cant do in XP, with the exeption of DX10. (who wants to pay $250 for a good video card anyway?)


Lots of people apparently, considering how hard it was to get the 8800GT 512 and how grossly inflated the prices managed to be and still sell
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But honestly, I dont know why so many people still run Windows. It just seems like people completely forget about the competitors and go straight to Windows. And trust me, the competitors dont "suck".


Because every other guy and his dog uses it. Got a problem? Call a friend. Yeah you could use Linux or Mac, but then you probably couldn't ask most of your friends when you forgot how to do something, or needed something switched back on, or which software's good for whatever. Especially Linux. The learning curve on Linux is too steep for most people, and the list of hardware supported from the get go is too short. I remember a year or so ago everyone was saying Ubuntu was finally ready for the average joe. Now I've assembled several PCs myself in time, and while I couldn't code you a word processor or pacman, I've learned basic C, PHP, HTML, CSS, and I'm comfortable on all versions of windows from 95 and up, .bat files, dos prompts, stuff like that. With Macs, I was helping my aunt troubleshoot after poking around her Mac's OSX for about ten minutes to get the hang of it.

With Ubuntu, Live CD ran with a whole bunch of squiggly lines across the screen, no doubt because of sparse graphics support. First install failed, didn't boot up right. Second install worked, but the wireless card didn't work. So I had to use a laptop on Windows to try and find a solution. The solution involved poking around terminal, IIRC. I couldn't be bothered. The GUI looked like a familiar yet less intuitive version of Window's or Mac's, what was the point? In the end, it all boils down to that. The average joe buys a prebuilt computer which comes with Windows already pre-installed. Why would he use anything else?
 
Feb 17, 2008 at 8:09 AM Post #86 of 226
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Originally Posted by terrymx /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I think vista is good, but vista X64 + Foobar was a very bad idea. Never got passed the 1st song.


How do you like Vista 64? I've been thinking of switching over so I can use all 4gbs of my ram but I don't want to be stuck with programs or hardware that isn't compatible. The people over at Hardforum say Vista 64's great but I still keep hearing of people having problems with drivers and software compatibility.
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Feb 17, 2008 at 9:35 AM Post #87 of 226
Hehehe, sounds like you guys are having some fun on your systems. Somebody I was talking to today mentioned they had a virus, and what to do. I said I am currently using a mac, and don't know; get a mac? They said no pc is best! Is there logic in that?

Seriously, for most computer users a Mac is easier to use. I'm glad to see vista has been making leaps and bounds. I can't wait to get a PC and pirate it. I hope it's relatively easy. Any word guys?

I really just wish that M$ would make a great OS with a lot of innovations and not just wait for the other guys to make all the good **** and then rip them off to make the $$$$$$$

You know what I hate even more!!! It's the fact that the two companies are in this together, creating a duality so we have to CHOOSE. ****, just make one computer, have the hardware be the OS and then have MS and apple create some bomb ass programs and work with other hardware vendors to have some kind of uniform smth. Guess that's what the future is..
 
Feb 17, 2008 at 1:52 PM Post #89 of 226
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Originally Posted by stuge(original) /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Right now I'm running Vista ,XP,Ubuntu 7.10 .I have been using Vista for the past 6 months and now I'm quite happy with it .Xp is faster ,when its compared to Vista and it is good for gaming IMO .


Nice..,your running 3 OS in 1 PC or laptop?btw i more like to using vista than xp which is more entertaint,more future like with new icon aero 3d more fun
 
Feb 17, 2008 at 4:05 PM Post #90 of 226
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Originally Posted by tylernol /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Hehehe, sounds like you guys are having some fun on your systems. Somebody I was talking to today mentioned they had a virus, and what to do. I said I am currently using a mac, and don't know; get a mac? They said no pc is best! Is there logic in that?


I can tell you what definitely doesn't have logic, that whole 'buy a Mac and stay virus free' argument. It's utter ********. The dominant OS will always be the one attracting virus writers. Why not tell them to use the most obscure OS around if you want to help him avoid viruses? Because you do know that along with Symbian for phones, OSX is next in line behind Windows to be the platform of choice for trojans, malware, worms and viruses right?

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Seriously, for most computer users a Mac is easier to use. I'm glad to see vista has been making leaps and bounds. I can't wait to get a PC and pirate it. I hope it's relatively easy. Any word guys?


Aww come now. It took me all of several days to learn how to navigate Windows 95 and do tasks like browse the web or start games. I was around 7 or 8 at the time. My sister who's about 9 can do everything a person her age should have to do on the XP PC. Paint, browse the web, log on or off, start Word, save her work, start Sims.. I don't know, I don't recall Einstein being on my family tree.

OSX may in fact be more intuitive from the get-go, but considering that from the sheer popularity of Windows alone, kids in the developed are likely to encounter a computer running Windows first. In their school's cafeteria, library, study areas, classrooms, home, meaning OSX would actually be one extra thing to learn, instead of a real alternative for a first-time computer user.

You probably copied this argument from the thousands of other mindless fanboys online, so I wouldn't place the bulk of the blame on you. But please, next time when you use this argument, modify it so that it says 'why the masses should use Mac', instead of suggesting 'why an individual should use a Mac at this point in time'. Otherwise, at least have some prove that OSX is indeed more intuitive. Reports from labs specialising in cognitive abilities showing that it's easier for most people across all age groups to pick up OSX. Because I for one know that if you googled, you'd find that just about every large organisation or company, government, publicly or privately held, and place of learning in the developed world employs Windows based computers meaning that in school, at work or on leisure, a person will likely encounter PCs, ensuring that in his lifetime he'll probably have to be familiar with the Windows GUI anyway.

By the way, discussion of piracy here doesn't make you cool.

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I really just wish that M$ would make a great OS with a lot of innovations and not just wait for the other guys to make all the good **** and then rip them off to make the $$$$$$$


Yawn. I just wish Macintosh had more success at the beginning so that it would actually be the most commonly used computers outside the niche sectors like advertising and audio and video production.

I don't care if a bus manages to contain a swimming pool, a presidential suite and a mini theatre.. on top of handling like a sports car and possessing an engine that does 100mpg, because it takes up six lanes it's pretty useless in my country where main roads max out at three.

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You know what I hate even more!!! It's the fact that the two companies are in this together, creating a duality so we have to CHOOSE. ****, just make one computer, have the hardware be the OS and then have MS and apple create some bomb ass programs and work with other hardware vendors to have some kind of uniform smth. Guess that's what the future is..


Wow! One monopoly isn't enough, we have to destroy what little competition there is too!
 

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