[canali]

  IMO, studio monitors have a more directional flow of sound compared to consumer speakers so unless you're using it near-field, the studio monitor won't sound right (most likely bass boosted with muted treble).

thanks for this...i've also read the same thing....guess each category has their own unique pros and cons.
 
might just wait for the new oppo sonica  wls speaker, then....getting good reviews.
while I know it's not a 'computer speaker' per se, I am just looking at additional good options for one's desktop, too
others might be equally interested, to keep their options open.
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=oppo%20sonica
can't right now pair this oppo speakers as left/right 2 channel...only supports playfi...but we'll see..firmware upgradeable...will have a 
room calibration app similar to what makes the sonos so appealing.
trusted reviews should also be doing a more indepth review shortly...but for
now, per bang for buck, it looks promising.
 
also see the comments in the darko review in the link..someone also suggested the peachtree audio2
link to product and reviews below, too
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Peachtree+Deepblue2&oq=pea&aqs=chrome.1.69i59l2j69i65l3j69i57.3631j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[cel4145]

IMO, studio monitors have a more directional flow of sound compared to consumer speakers so unless you're using it near-field, the studio monitor won't sound right (most likely bass boosted with muted treble).

Unless we are talking about some models of Bose or Mirage speakers, and of course bipoles/dipoles, home audio and studio speakers are typically all examples of direct radiating speakers. So what is this "directional flow" you speak of? Not to sound flippant, but do some go backwards? I just don't understand what this is. I've also seen people use studio monitors for HT setups. I've seen people use home audio passive speakers in desktop setups (doing it right now). Both can work very well.

 

[theveterans]

 Unless we are talking about some models of Bose or Mirage speakers, and of course bipoles/dipoles, home audio and studio speakers are typically all examples of direct radiating speakers. So what is this "directional flow" you speak of? Not to sound flippant, but do some go backwards? I just don't understand what this is. I've also seen people use studio monitors for HT setups. I've seen people use home audio passive speakers in desktop setups (doing it right now). Both can work very well.

 
IMO, I find that my Yamaha HS7 sounding bass heavy with muted highs off of the sweet spot while my Bose sound bar at the living room doesn't change that much in timbre if I sit from side or from the sweetspot. IMO, consumer speakers typically advertise off-center drivers to give a consistent sound at any listener's position.

 

[cel4145]

IMO, I find that my Yamaha HS7 sounding bass heavy with muted highs off of the sweet spot while my Bose sound bar at the living room doesn't change that much in timbre if I sit from side or from the sweetspot. IMO, consumer speakers typically advertise off-center drivers to give a consistent sound at any listener's position.

NO

A sound bar is not the same as a typical home audio direct radiating speaker using a similar design to your Yamaha. You are comparing apples to pizza.

Direct radiating 2 way speakers like your Yamahas or my Sierra 1s all have some ever increasing fall off in frequency response as you move off axis. Some more than others. But they all do. Just have to look at measurements instead of making theories up.

 

[Wilderness]

For $500, you could get the PSB 2.1 system. If you get the two powered speakers and matching sub as a package, you save $50 and so the total is $500. I would not recommend getting the two PSB speakers without a sub. The sub does more than just add bass. It fills out the sound. Without the sub, the two speakers strain and don't sound very good. With the sub, magic happens. These speakers have received very good reviews on audiophile websites. I was pleased with the package, but I eventually bought a bigger, better sub.

 

[250lbs]

You should also check out the Vanatoo Transparant One. Get's good reviews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpU2nmNCcrQ (funny guy btw) Dac inside and powered. Adam audio speakers (also nearfield prof. monitors) should work wonders too ,front ported should help to tame the base in certain situations but these are more expensive and look in professional series very utilitarian looking  
 
The JBl LSR305 is very good for the price....
 
All these monitors are professional monitors en should be quite revealing (bad recordings will sound bad)and be good for a nearfield environment.

 

[nuraman00]

  You should also check out the Vanatoo Transparant One. Get's good reviews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpU2nmNCcrQ (funny guy btw) Dac inside and powered. Adam audio speakers (also nearfield prof. monitors) should work wonders too ,front ported should help to tame the base in certain situations but these are more expensive and look in professional series very utilitarian looking  
 
The JBl LSR305 is very good for the price....
 
All these monitors are professional monitors en should be quite revealing (bad recordings will sound bad)and be good for a nearfield environment.

 
Thanks.  The connectivity options seem cool.
 
I also saw it comes with an Avantree Bluetooth adapter.  But that's something that can be purchased later too, if I want.  Bluetooth is also compressed audio, so there's that to consider. 
 
How does that Bluetooth adapter connect?  Via USB, or 3.5mm?
 
Either way, that means I can't connect via USB from my PC, if I also want to connect with the adapter via USB, right?  Or the same situation applies if it connects via 3.5mm.
 
Does it come with any cables?
 
What connection option would you suggest via PC?  USB?  3.5mm?  TOSLINK? 
 
I'm also wondering about one other specification.
 
The LSR308 lists its power as 56 watts for the LF Driver, and 56 watts for the HF Driver.
 
The Airmotiv 6s has 110 RMS for the LF amplifier, 100 RMS for the HF amplifier.
 
The Vanatoo One has 60 watts RMS per channel.
 
How are any of these 3 comparable?
 
 
Also, why do the front of the black ones have a grill in front of the tweeter, but the cherry wood ones don't?
 
Black:
 
http://www.vanatoo.com/store/speakers/transparent-one-black#.V61gO6Lkokc
 
Cherry Wood:
 
http://www.vanatoo.com/store/speakers/transparent-one-cherry#.V61gPqLkokc

 

[250lbs]

You can use either toslink, usb or 3.5 mm, the best option is hard to tell in your situation. what i can say is that toslink will probably go up to 24bit/96khz and not up to 24/192khz. When using a speaker like the vanatoo is best to keep the signal as long as possible in the digital realm. Meaning use usb or toslink to hook them up to your computer (no dac neccessary) and don't do the a/d translation twice.

With most prof powered monitors you should use an seperate dac to hook them up on usb port, they usually don't come with a dac inside.

The bluetooth adapter on the vanatoo is hooked up to the power out on the speaker(this is kind of unique to have a power socket on a speaker) and from there is is connected to the analog 3,5 mm in. http://www.vanatoo.com/ecom_img/original-4-13-t1c-bt3.jpg

I don't own the Vanatoo though, i am in the process of buying some speakers as well, so i'm doing some research at the moment. It's too bad i can't hear them side by side with some other speakers. As far as i am aware there is no difference in the black Vanatoo's vs the cherry ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9y31S6OnSw i thk the encasing of the tweeter might have an slightly different colour on the cherry ones but i thk this is cosmetic only. Where looks is concerned i like a white Yamaha's HS-7 a little more(although they are bigger 6,5 inch woofer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LRrYLiGYWQ or even of you wan't somethg very small Ruark MR1 : http://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/mr1-gallery

edit: looking at the spec sheat it says that 24/192khz is not supported anyway on the Vanatoo, also no dsd. If this is an issue for you depends if you will use this kind of high res music. An seperate dac might be a solution for that... I

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=117222.0
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2013/07/vanatoo-transparent-one-powered-loudspeaker-review/

I wouldn't look into the amplifier watt's specs to much, all these speakers i mentioned will go loud enough in a small room, usually the sensibility of the speaker is more important for that.

 

[nuraman00]

I don't own the Vanatoo though, i am in the process of buying some speakers as well, so i'm doing some research at the moment. It's too bad i can't hear them side by side with some other speakers. As far as i am aware there is no difference in the black Vanatoo's vs the cherry ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9y31S6OnSw i thk the encasing of the tweeter might have an slightly different colour on the cherry ones but i thk this is cosmetic only. Where looks is concerned i like a white Yamaha's HS-7 a little more(although they are bigger 6,5 inch woofer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LRrYLiGYWQ or even of you wan't somethg very small Ruark MR1 : http://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/mr1-gallery

 

 
 

   
 
Also, why do the front of the black ones have a grill in front of the tweeter, but the cherry wood ones don't?
 
Black:
 
http://www.vanatoo.com/store/speakers/transparent-one-black#.V61gO6Lkokc
 
Cherry Wood:
 
http://www.vanatoo.com/store/speakers/transparent-one-cherry#.V61gPqLkokc

 
I was in the process of making a response of what confused me about the looks, and then finally your video helped clear it up.  Ok, agree, there is no difference.

 

[nuraman00]

You can use either toslink, usb or 3.5 mm, the best option is hard to tell in your situation. what i can say is that toslink will probably go up to 24bit/96khz and not up to 24/192khz. When using a speaker like the vanatoo is best to keep the signal as long as possible in the digital realm. Meaning use usb or toslink to hook them up to your computer (no dac neccessary) and don't do the a/d translation twice.

With most prof powered monitors you should use an seperate dac to hook them up on usb port, they usually don't come with a dac inside.

The bluetooth adapter on the vanatoo is hooked up to the power out on the speaker(this is kind of unique to have a power socket on a speaker) and from there is is connected to the analog 3,5 mm in. http://www.vanatoo.com/ecom_img/original-4-13-t1c-bt3.jpg

I don't own the Vanatoo though, i am in the process of buying some speakers as well, so i'm doing some research at the moment. It's too bad i can't hear them side by side with some other speakers. As far as i am aware there is no difference in the black Vanatoo's vs the cherry ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9y31S6OnSw i thk the encasing of the tweeter might have an slightly different colour on the cherry ones but i thk this is cosmetic only. Where looks is concerned i like a white Yamaha's HS-7 a little more(although they are bigger 6,5 inch woofer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LRrYLiGYWQ or even of you wan't somethg very small Ruark MR1 : http://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/mr1-gallery

edit: looking at the spec sheat it says that 24/192khz is not supported anyway on the Vanatoo, also no dsd. If this is an issue for you depends if you will use this kind of high res music. An seperate dac might be a solution for that... I

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=117222.0
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2013/07/vanatoo-transparent-one-powered-loudspeaker-review/

I wouldn't look into the amplifier watt's specs to much, all these speakers a i mentioned will go loud enough in a small room, usually the sensibility of the speaker is more important for that.

 
What's dsd?
 
I mostly listen to CDs, although I have some FLACs too.  Even then, the ones I checked aren't 24/192khz.  So I don't think this is an issue.
 
Do you know if the Vanatoo comes with any cables?
 
Why can't I find the same Avantree Bluetooth adapter that's included with the Vanatoo, on Avantree's website?
 
http://www.avantree.com/category-bluetooth-speaker-adapter-21
 
Which of those models most closely resembles it?
 
 
How would you compare the JBL308, Airmotiv 6s, and the Vanatoo Transparent One, based on your research, or the research in this thread?  Any noticeable differences, or pros/cons of one over the other?
 
Besides the connectivity options the Vanatoo has.
 
I guess the same sort of Avantree Bluetooth adapters can be added to those other speakers too, right?  Wait, I don't think the JBL 308 has a 3.5mm input, so it wouldn't be possible, right?  But it would be possible with the Airmotiv, through the RCA input?
 
This is just very small consideration for me.  Just wanted to be aware of it.

 

[nuraman00]

You can use either toslink, usb or 3.5 mm, the best option is hard to tell in your situation. what i can say is that toslink will probably go up to 24bit/96khz and not up to 24/192khz. When using a speaker like the vanatoo is best to keep the signal as long as possible in the digital realm. Meaning use usb or toslink to hook them up to your computer (no dac neccessary) and don't do the a/d translation twice.

With most prof powered monitors you should use an seperate dac to hook them up on usb port, they usually don't come with a dac inside.

The bluetooth adapter on the vanatoo is hooked up to the power out on the speaker(this is kind of unique to have a power socket on a speaker) and from there is is connected to the analog 3,5 mm in. http://www.vanatoo.com/ecom_img/original-4-13-t1c-bt3.jpg

I don't own the Vanatoo though, i am in the process of buying some speakers as well, so i'm doing some research at the moment. It's too bad i can't hear them side by side with some other speakers. As far as i am aware there is no difference in the black Vanatoo's vs the cherry ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9y31S6OnSw i thk the encasing of the tweeter might have an slightly different colour on the cherry ones but i thk this is cosmetic only. Where looks is concerned i like a white Yamaha's HS-7 a little more(although they are bigger 6,5 inch woofer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LRrYLiGYWQ or even of you wan't somethg very small Ruark MR1 : http://www.ruarkaudio.com/products/mr1-gallery

edit: looking at the spec sheat it says that 24/192khz is not supported anyway on the Vanatoo, also no dsd. If this is an issue for you depends if you will use this kind of high res music. An seperate dac might be a solution for that... I

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=117222.0
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2013/07/vanatoo-transparent-one-powered-loudspeaker-review/

I wouldn't look into the amplifier watt's specs to much, all these speakers i mentioned will go loud enough in a small room, usually the sensibility of the speaker is more important for that.

 
Bump, @250lbs?  Thoughts on post #130?

 

[nuraman00]

I also agree that in terms of looks, the Yamaha looks the best.  I'd be comparing the HS8 though, and not the HS7, to keep it consistent with the other models I'm examining.  It's just unfortunate that the HS8 is $100 more per speaker, than the Airmotiv 6s, JBL 308.
 
I guess the Vanatoo Transparent One is 6.5" wide.
 
What's the difference between the B-stock and non B-stock?
 
http://www.vanatoo.com/store/speakers#.V7PWjaLkoke

 

[canali]

Recent review of new oppo sonica, soon to be released
http://hometheaterreview.com/oppo-digital-sonica-wi-fi-speaker-reviewed/?page=2

End of article talks about some of the competition and how it stacks up.
wish they'd compared it to bluesound but they didn't

 

[nuraman00]

Recent review of new oppo sonica, soon to be released
http://hometheaterreview.com/oppo-digital-sonica-wi-fi-speaker-reviewed/?page=2

End of article talks about some of the competition and how it stacks up.
wish they'd compared it to bluesound but they didn't

 
Nice article @canali, thanks for posting.  What do you think?
 
I'm thinking of adding an aftermarket solution to whatever speakers I get, to make them wireless.
 
Bluetooth:
 
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-980-000910-Bluetooth-Adapter-Streaming/dp/B00IQBSW28
 
Bluetooth and Wi Fi:
 
https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Jongo-Wireless-Adapter-Bluetooth/dp/B00CY9Q4KU

 

[nuraman00]

I've placed my order:
 
* JBL LSR 308
* Emotiva Airmotiv 6s
* Dell keyboard with volume control buttons
 
(I'd already bought my cables in June).
 
The Vanatoo Transparant One looked intriguing with its connectivity options and sleep mode.  But I still went with the above two.
 
I would have tried the Yamaha HS8 had it been priced comparatively to the above two.
 
Will keep this thread updated as I receive and compare them.