[MMJ2015]

could someone try the westone w60 with phonak audio silicone tips and 100ohm adapter and compare that to the w4,4r with the tips and adapter as well? (the 4r and w4 is transformed like night and day with this)

 

[Total Hype]

  W60 has much more weight and impact than UE900.  Much more....
 
UMPro50 is a stage monitor so it will sound closed in (muddled) with small soundstage.
 
W60 (W-series) is for recreational use and has a more open sound and treble extends a little further.

Good!
 
Thanks

 

[MMJ2015]

wondering if someone could play some test tones into their w60, and see if this graph is correct or not?
 
for example a sine wave at 4.8khz at -10dbs and compared to a sine wave at 1.5khz at -10dbs , see what the perception of volume drop is to you in comparison to see if that nasty hole is really there.
 

 

[MMJ2015]

also a few test tones from 15khz,17khz,and 19khz all at -10dbs to see if they even audible or not.

 

[MMJ2015]

if you want let me know i can make the test tones for you put a link and have you try it. this test is very important before i could consider so much money on this IEM

 

[M Coupe]

Or you could go demo them. Would be more reliable than another's ear with test tones don't you think.

 

[michael viscera]

 If people want an IEM in the same form factor as Westone and Shure, they should take a hard look at the Nuforce Primo 8. For $499, it's by far the best buy of the bunch compared to all the other similar offerings I've seen in terms of sound quality.
 

 
Hi,
I thoroughly and completely disagree with you. I haven't heard a worst pair of earphones in my entire life; muddy, dark, compressed, lifeless, just plain awful. I can't believe I'm gonna say this but the apple earbuds sound way better than the Nu-force primo 8's. Thank you amazon for your return policy, otherwise I would've been stuck with a pair of $499 little turds.
 
F.Y.I. my comparison earphones are the Klipsch image 10x, Westone UM3X, and Shure SE846, with loseless media.

 

[michael viscera]

oh, and I'm more likely to buy the W60's, reading this thread I'm getting quite convinced

 

[MMJ2015]

 Or you could go demo them. Would be more reliable than another's ear with test tones don't you think.

i would like that, but im in the country a few hundred miles from a normal city

 

[tomscy2000]

  I thoroughly and completely disagree with you. I haven't heard a worst pair of earphones in my entire life; muddy, dark, compressed, lifeless, just plain awful. I can't believe I'm gonna say this but the apple earbuds sound way better than the Nu-force primo 8's. Thank you amazon for your return policy, otherwise I would've been stuck with a pair of $499 little turds.  
F.Y.I. my comparison earphones are the Klipsch image 10x, Westone UM3X, and Shure SE846, with loseless media.

What was your source? Sounds like you're using a source with high output impedance (e.g. OTL tube amps), which will make the Primo 8 very, very dark, very quickly. The Primo 8 needs a low output impedance source.

 

[MMJ2015]

 
the primo 8 is horrible look at the big gaps , missing audio

 
here larger image of it
 
http://i.imgur.com/ssjMhrC.jpg

 

[tomscy2000]

  the primo 8 is horrible look at the big gaps , missing audio  
here larger image of it
 
http://i.imgur.com/ssjMhrC.jpg

 
If that's how you define "horrible" --- then the W60 is no better...
http://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=cool_review&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=430

 

[MMJ2015]

  If that's how you define "horrible" --- then the W60 is no better...
http://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=cool_review&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=430

you bring up an extremely important point, i have been trying to get someone to test their w60 to see if that frequency response is  the same as those measurements, because if so i will not get it.

 

[MMJ2015]

this what im currently using, trying to see if w60 will be any better or not
 
 
 
 

 

[tomscy2000]

  you bring up an extremely important point, i have been trying to get someone to test their w60 to see if that frequency response is  the same as those measurements, because if so i will not get it.

It should be. The FR corresponds with listening impressions. If you're concerned, just get the SE846. FR is not everything, though. You also should start learning about the cases in which measurements are not accurate. Even though the IEC standard is approved to 16 kHz, the vast majority of testers still insist IEC711 (60318-4) is only accurate to 8 kHz and anything beyond it is just ballpark levels. Even when things are tested in the reference plane, the 711 coupler exhibits 12 kHz resonance that theoretically shouldn't exist within the ear canal. Also, all these earphones have a little better extension that what they show in the FR charts. Because of the massive disparity in acoustic impedance and diameter of expansion, high frequencies are subjected to an "acoustical short", especially when not inserted to the intended depth. So long story short, most FR measurements are not actually accurate in the treble region, and only give ballpark approximations.