Are you using headphones? Make sure the video mode is off and that you're in max upscale (white light). In my system with my speakers it is night and day difference, in fact, I can't listen without it.
Headphones only for me. The video button is dark, which I think means “off”. I mean I’m struggling to hear any sort of improvement. I was using HQP previously and was following the recommendation to us sinc-M as a good “like Mscaler” sound… mine sounds NOTHING like that unfortunately.
Don’t try too much. Stress kills listening sensitivity. Also turn off all source dsp and try some local Flac files. A lot of Tidals Library consists of not bit perfect recordings.
I find that it‘s a lot easier to follow the rithm of electronic beats. Also ironically the timbre accuracy is a lot better. This might be due to the samples often being real distorted instruments or other recorded sounds. To me all music benefits, just some recordings more than others.
This is all perfectly said. Reactcore what is a pre Dolby 1968 or earlier album you think exemplifies what the M Scaler does?To my ears, Mscaler, and with Chord DAC's in general they really depend on the source being bitperfect and not overly DSP'ed in a studio. One DSP setting activated on your player can take 80% away of Mscaler's effect.
A few settings to check on you player:
I find that with electronicly generated EDM music the Mscaler dont add much as theres less natural instrument transients to recover like with simple mike recorded sources. Try to find once a genuine pre 1968 recorded track from non remastered 44.1 redbook.
- Output samplerate is the same as the record's one
- No EQ enabled
- No room enhancement used
- No upsampling used in player
- No player volume used (set on max in the software) use only the DAC's one
- Balance is at zero shift
- Max bit depth set not lower than 16b
- No Dither enabled
- Uncheck any other 'enhancement' setting, keep it stock (flat)
- If using windows use Wasapi
- Not playing a remaster, try using older originals, often 44.1 sounds better than higher like 96/192k
- Use no MQA
Lastly dont A-B with and without Mscaling too quickly, listen for a while and let your brain adjust, then switch over and listen for a time without touching anything.
Hope this helps
I am also a TT2/MS owner, and I had a somewhat similar experience to yours. And just when writing this posting, I switched from pass-through mode to full-scaled mode to replicate. The effect is not dramatic, but all pervasive. For me its is obvious when I let go and immerse into the music. Music flows more naturally and organically. There is less "work" in the music. So paradoxically, if you focus hard and try to identify specific aspects, the improvements may seem disappointing, it is like a Zen thing: a bit
Try some of the ones i posted on Mscaler thread.. or just check up songs when the play is recorded before '68 and find an old early 80's 44.1 redbook rip of it.
The optical Toslink limits is 24/192khz, most music falls below these numbers. Using optical from the source into the M Scaler and then my TT-2 made a dramatic improvement. Everything sounds better, I prefer it over all others I.e, USB, Coax, etc.please forgive me for being a doofus here... but this chart has me confused.
I understand that dual BNC/usb in at 44.1 gives me a max of 705.6
what don't understand is the optical column... is optical out or optical in that limits OUTPUT to 176.4? (because usb in is specifically called out in the Dual BNC column)
I'm currently using optical input from my Streamer (Holo Red) as well as optical input from my CD transport (Cambridge CXC). Does this mean that my maximum up-sampling is limited to 176.4?
Gotcha, I just wanted to confirm that despite the input (in this case optical), I'm not limited on my output
It's also a scientific thing. Neuroscience/psychology/evolutionary biology has for decades recognized conscious, slow, directed thought ("System 2", as many in the field call it) as a much later-evolved (as recently as 200,000 to 100,000 years) and very different process from the millions-of-years-old System 1, automatic, instant, unconscious thought that our brains use 90%+ of the time. When you sit around trying to "find" differences, you're using System 2. When you just listen to music to get lost in it, that's System 1.I am also a TT2/MS owner, and I had a somewhat similar experience to yours. And just when writing this posting, I switched from pass-through mode to full-scaled mode to replicate. The effect is not dramatic, but all pervasive. For me its is obvious when I let go and immerse into the music. Music flows more naturally and organically. There is less "work" in the music. So paradoxically, if you focus hard and try to identify specific aspects, the improvements may seem disappointing, it is like a Zen thing: a bit
Especially just after you lashed out on some of the products we typically consider here
