Jan 6, 2010 at 6:30 PM Post #166 of 833
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My WA22 is shipping at the end of this week, so I will be able to contribute my impression soon enough..


When did you place your order? Mine was on Nov 5th. (Also in silver)
 
Jan 6, 2010 at 8:18 PM Post #168 of 833
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What stock tubes did your wa22 come with?

Thanks in advance



I haven't received yet. As I said, it's shipping at the end of this week or early next week. I will probably get it by mid or late next week.
 
Jan 6, 2010 at 8:22 PM Post #169 of 833
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I haven't received yet. As I said, it's shipping at the end of this week or early next week. I will probably get it by mid or late next week.


When did you place the order if you don't mind me asking?
 
Jan 6, 2010 at 8:26 PM Post #170 of 833
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When did you place the order if you don't mind me asking?


I don't remember exactly. About 8 weeks ago.
 
Jan 15, 2010 at 8:03 PM Post #171 of 833
I will drop off my amp this coming Monday at Modwright. 2 hours 15 min drive for me, not bad. Then I will have fun at strip club at Portland after that. No, just kidding.
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I talked to Dan the owner, only thing that for sure right now is using Mundorf Sliver/Oil Caps. I chose that cap based on my intense study, the sound signature of the cap relate to WA22, size, and price point. I DO NOT want blackgtes. I know Modwright have their own caps, but I could not find reviews or any comments, I do not want to take the risk.

I mainly want to Mod the PC board section, which should be easy. Dan told me he will come up a package price for all WA22. My goal is using WA22 as base, and given sub $3000 USD (with amp) to compete with other top the line headphone/pre amps.

Dan is very nice to deal with so far. I will provide the caps, he only charge for the labor.
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Can someone tell me what values of those caps? I already pack the amp and tubes.
 
Jan 15, 2010 at 9:42 PM Post #172 of 833
Shouldn't you ask Jack about those cap values?

Also, if you are making those mods, does it void the warranty or ?

I'm interested in seeing the upgrade, but the above question kinda bothers me.

Did you confirm that with Jack?
 
Jan 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM Post #173 of 833
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Shouldn't you ask Jack about those cap values?

Also, if you are making those mods, does it void the warranty or ?

I'm interested in seeing the upgrade, but the above question kinda bothers me.

Did you confirm that with Jack?



I emailed Jack about this, no reply so far (2days). Woo Amps are very solid built products. If there is nothing worng within 1st two months, more likely it will be trouble free for many years. I am pretty sure what I am about to do is going to void warranty. But what the hell, I am already felt sorry for my wallet, take a step further is not going to hurt much more.
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At $1900 USD, WA22 is sure bargan. After took look inside the amp, I see a lot of room for improvment for less than $1000 total. This idea popped up in my head after Seattle mini meet. Big Proppa's Woo 3+ had blackgates, which took the amp a few notches up. Blackgates are rated 2.5~3 out 5 point scale, that made me wordering what if I drop 4.5 star rating caps in the amp for only a few hundred bucks more? Hummmm.......
 
Jan 16, 2010 at 5:06 AM Post #174 of 833
Dude, blackgates are burning mighty fine. With the Bendix and the GEC tubes it is mighty fine. You will have to come to the meet to hear the huge improvements. Really glad to get the Blackgates.
 
Jan 16, 2010 at 9:25 PM Post #175 of 833
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Those Nichicon and Rubycom caps are bothering me to death. I really wish Woo Audio offered cap upgrade from start.

Please don't get me worng, WA22 sounds super good as it is.

Both Nichicon and Rubycom are huge companies. For those caps, I am feeling like using BOSE Tripot in terms of headphone. I want T1 caps in my amp in terms of headphone!

Speak of blackgates, I feel they are some where between HD600~HD650 in terms of headphone. More towards to HD650. They were legend for many years untill now new caps with new tech are knocking them off the stage.
 
Jan 17, 2010 at 1:53 AM Post #176 of 833
Jack will accommodate most wishes. You just have to ask before hand. I traded a least a dozen emails before any deal was done.
 
Jan 19, 2010 at 2:16 AM Post #177 of 833
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Seamaster - I've never been to a 'meet' before and really don't even know what one is (have a vague idea). Dan's a personal friend and I do most of his photography and graphic design, and advertising for him. If he goes I may be coming down from Seattle as I don't get to see him that often during the year, and I always enjoy seeing him - he's a great guy. If I do I'll bring a pair of GS1000's for you to listen to. Sorry, they're not the i's but they still sound wonderful to my ears and with my preferences in music. It will really depend on how that month shapes up for me. I'm currently recovering from a foot surgery and on one leg (sounds like you are hopping as well). I should be bipedal by mid-February.

Regarding the recap - Don't forget those new caps are going to need some burn-in time before they settle in. Check with Dan - he's familiar with his own, but he may also be able to suggest what burn-in on the Mundorfs might be like. If you are doing a complete recap I'd bet you were looking at 200-300 hours of burn-in, but ask Dan for a more accurate estimate. BTW - you could not be in better hands or have better ears on your side than Dan's. I've been after him to put his hat in the headphone ring for a while. I think he's getting there. If and when he does, you can be sure it will be a significant contribution. I started using his stuff back when he first came out with the prototype preamp.I've owned a few of his modified players...all great stuff. He's really come a long way since then...I think that's about ten years ago. My system (speakers - sorry to say I prefer them to cans - am I banished?) is mostly Modwright now. I'm loving it - in over 30 years in this hobby it's definitely of the top two favorite states of my main system (which has changed a few times over that period)...actually it eeks out the SET system in terms of versatility and takes top honors for me. If only I could get my room to cooperate now...OK now there's one place where cans redeem themselves (among several). Phew, saved my sorry ass from a bunch of angry head-fiers! Seriously, I've been enjoying the heck out of my headphone system since being confined with this foot thing.

Today I drove 120 miles (eachway) to visit Dan's shop, and drop off my amp, alone with HD650, few cables and tubes. Man, I did not expect that far away in to the woods, out of nowhere in a little town have such high end audio work shop/brand. I got lost in the 1st place and asked local people, where his shop is, they just looked at me think I am talking alien from space. Dan showed me his reference system. I love the craftmanship of his KWA 150 Amplifier, the quality is eye popping. Pictures on his website DON'T do any justice! Since there was only very short listening, and one CD only. I can't speak for other parts. The main things noticed with my instinct were the level of transparency and tonal correctness. Those two things just slapped on my face. Also the system have great hight extension/air without lose density of music. At this point, well I just go ahead let Dan takes care my amp, it is in good hands. Also I am not fixed to use Mundorf Caps anymore. Dan is very nice person talk to, soft and humble. We talked about headphone market for long time, I think I convined him to jump on this band wagon, and making headphone amp. Idea so far is direct sale from his website without going through dealer, to reduce cost that way. My sugestion was one balanced reference level model priced between $2000~$3000 USD using best parts, and tech. One lower end model priced around $900 USD.

Jax, thanks for the headphone. Yes I am hopping too, from 2nd sonwboard accident in 2 months. I twisted my ankle big time even with stiff snowboard boots. I tried to jump a ramp, landed sideway. My board and my body both had their own idea, and wanted to roll different directions. Sorry ankle!
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Jan 19, 2010 at 2:55 AM Post #178 of 833
That's great to hear, Seamaster. I'll be looking forward to hearing what you think about your upgraded WA22!

I'm actually about ready to purchase the EML 5U4G mesh! I'll update on my opinions with it.

BTW, I'm going snowboarding this weekend (first time I've ever gone for real, aside from going down small hills near my neighborhood when I was a kid). Let's hope I can avoid those damn trees!
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Jan 19, 2010 at 4:40 PM Post #179 of 833
How much is the upgrade, Seamaster?

My WA22 is finally shipping tomorrow, so I am hoping to get it this Friday (crossing fingers). I doubt I will do such upgrade right away, but it's something to keep in mind when I get tired of it. :-)
 
Jan 19, 2010 at 6:20 PM Post #180 of 833
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How much is the upgrade, Seamaster?

My WA22 is finally shipping tomorrow, so I am hoping to get it this Friday (crossing fingers). I doubt I will do such upgrade right away, but it's something to keep in mind when I get tired of it. :-)



I will have to wait Dan to test the amp out frist, and tells me what's his opinion on he amp, and what options, parts, and mods needed. I already told his the mod can't be too expensive, and select parts very carefully. I will post our email exchange in public here. So you guys will also have ideas what's going on. But test will take time.
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