Violectric HPA V281 - Vorsprung durch Balanced (September 2023 Update: Limited Reissue Edition up for preorder!)
Nov 24, 2014 at 9:51 PM Post #886 of 5,977
I am no good with words as most people are here, but I like what I hear with V281. So for an impression of what the V281 sounds like, read the other posts in this thread. That was what I did and the actual audition sealed the deal.

But one thing I can attest to is the after sales service of Lakepeople and Fried is top notch. As I have replied in this thread, I was only have 2 working outputs of the 3 headphone outputs upon receiving my V281. An email to Lakepeople was quickly responded with a remedy and the 3rd missing output was 'found'. The gremlins must have been working overtime during the flight here inside my V281!!! Hahahah.

Kudos to Fried and the Lakepeople team!


Good to see that you were able to resolve your issue without sending the amp back.
 
As for the Violectric/Lake People service I agree: they are fantastic. When I played with the USB DAC and encountered some issues I reported them here. Next thing I get a PM from their tech rep offering help in resolving it.
 
Even considering that this is a new product and they may be going an extra mile to make sure it's successful, this was the first time something like that happened to me.
 
Nov 26, 2014 at 10:41 AM Post #887 of 5,977
I you read pages ago, I was among the first ones all over the world to have the new Violectrics amplifiers, I'm pretty sure even before any american customer had one since I live in Europe and shipment is faster haha.
 
But I got one of the very first amplifiers which had problems with the volume knob, the screw loose itself due to the temperatures of the plane and the communication with the SAT was superb, they sent me ASAP an allen key to re-atach the knob and 4 months after, is as solid as it could be!
 
Top notch quality here.
 
Nov 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM Post #888 of 5,977
Hi Guys,
 
Need advice and possible recommendations on source upgrade..... Should I go the music streamer route or upgrade to a better CDP?  Budget upto $2K.
 
 
Currently have Rega Apollo R paired up with V281.
 
 
Any suggestions would be helpful...
 
 
Thanks
 
Nov 27, 2014 at 9:09 PM Post #889 of 5,977
  Hi Guys,
 
Need advice and possible recommendations on source upgrade..... Should I go the music streamer route or upgrade to a better CDP?  Budget upto $2K.
 
 
Currently have Rega Apollo R paired up with V281.
 
 
Any suggestions would be helpful...
 
 
Thanks

I use a Logitech Squeezebox Touch as my source, it's very convenient and is great for playing hi-res audio.  I have it networked to a server downstairs, and control the player with an iPad or iPhone.
Logitech doesn't make them anymore but there are plenty of used ones on ebay.
 
Nov 27, 2014 at 11:36 PM Post #891 of 5,977
  Hi Viper,
 
Thanks for your suggestion...Will look into Logitech... Anyone have experience with Olive HD streamers...??

 
if you're looking for a high end solution - which would make sense if you have such a good amp - then i'd suggest using a PC as the source feeding into an external DAC (preferably with a decent USB SPDIF converter)
 
using a pc gives you heaps of options for an interface. e.g. XBMC, foobar, VLC etc etc
 
Nov 27, 2014 at 11:48 PM Post #892 of 5,977
if you're looking for a high end solution - which would make sense if you have such a good amp - then i'd suggest using a PC as the source feeding into an external DAC (preferably with a decent USB SPDIF converter)

using a pc gives you heaps of options for an interface. e.g. XBMC, foobar, VLC etc etc


If your listening station is at your computer desk then using a PC would be feasible.
But if you like listening away from your PC, then streaming works well! You can even have multiple listening stations fed by one central server.
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM Post #893 of 5,977
  Hi Viper,
 
Thanks for your suggestion...Will look into Logitech... Anyone have experience with Olive HD streamers...??

 
 
I'll second the recommendation for a Squeezebox Touch. It's not a lot of money for a nice little streamer. Add an external DAC and you can have very high quality sound.
 
Olive stuff has always struck me as nice but overpriced for what you get. Seems more like their gear is intended for people who don't know how to rip their own CDs, and just want something to handle it for them. Build is fine, SQ is fine but not amazing for the price, and their UI is just not all that great (considering that's their big selling point).
 
I'd also look into computer as transport if you are at all handy with a computer. It doesn't take much to set up a laptop and then control it with a tablet.
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 7:15 PM Post #894 of 5,977
Hi 86,

Thanks for your recommendations....Currently I have a chance of securing a demo unit of Aurender X100s at a good price.... Have you got any experience with this model.... I will be heading over to my local dealer for audition however just wanted to get some general feedback......
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM Post #897 of 5,977
I'll second the recommendation for a Squeezebox Touch. It's not a lot of money for a nice little streamer. Add an external DAC and you can have very high quality sound.

Olive stuff has always struck me as nice but overpriced for what you get. Seems more like their gear is intended for people who don't know how to rip their own CDs, and just want something to handle it for them. Build is fine, SQ is fine but not amazing for the price, and their UI is just not all that great (considering that's their big selling point).

I'd also look into computer as transport if you are at all handy with a computer. It doesn't take much to set up a laptop and then control it with a tablet.


Could you please advise what laptop you would recommend as a music server where I can place the laptop in my listening room and where the sole function of the laptop would be to act as a music server? Can I then send the signal to an Anedio D2 DAC using its USB port? Also, is there a music streaming service that offers a large selection of high quality classical music and opera recordings? Would a laptop be deficient in sound quality relative to an Aurender x100 music server?

Jeff.
 
Nov 29, 2014 at 5:15 AM Post #898 of 5,977
Could you please advise what laptop you would recommend as a music server where I can place the laptop in my listening room and where the sole function of the laptop would be to act as a music server? Can I then send the signal to an Anedio D2 DAC using its USB port? Also, is there a music streaming service that offers a large selection of high quality classical music and opera recordings? Would a laptop be deficient in sound quality relative to an Aurender x100 music server?

Jeff.

I've been looking for a good one for a long, long time.....
 
Have a subscription with classicalarchives.com:  lots of artists but unfortunately they tend to go for cheaper editions (Naxos).  Then there's Spotify premium, they seriously enlarged their classical offer and to be fair, it's not bad imo.  Of course lots of mainstream compilations but also quite specialised works.  Only fly in the ointment is the interface that absolutely sucks to organise a library.  
 
Some people also like Qobuz, I don't know, they don't offer the variety that Spotify premium has.  Tidal's not available where I am.  If you find an interesting one that's not mentioned, please post.
 
Nov 29, 2014 at 10:11 AM Post #899 of 5,977
  Where would the Auralic Aries reside in this regard?

 
 
Sorry, I haven't heard it so I don't know.
 
 
Could you please advise what laptop you would recommend as a music server where I can place the laptop in my listening room and where the sole function of the laptop would be to act as a music server? Can I then send the signal to an Anedio D2 DAC using its USB port? Also, is there a music streaming service that offers a large selection of high quality classical music and opera recordings? Would a laptop be deficient in sound quality relative to an Aurender x100 music server?

Jeff.

 
 
On a basic level, pretty much any laptop will do. You want something reasonably current as far as CPU, RAM, and storage (although you can always add external hard drives if needed). I figure any well reviewed laptop that isn't a cut-rate, doorbuster type offering should be pretty good.
 
The reason I recommend a laptop in the first place (rather than a desktop or something like a Mac Mini) is the convenience of having a display/keyboard/mouse available when you need it. I have run a "headless" dedicated media PC and it's kind of a hassle to lug a screen and keyboard in there whenever something goes wrong or I need to change the configuration. Your mileage may vary in that regard.
 
There are several good programs you can use which can be controlled via tablet. JRiver Media Center works with JRemote on a tablet, or for a more affordable option go Foobar2000 with MonkeyMote (I tend use this one more than JRiver, both are good). It's great to just sit on the couch and call up your favorite tracks or build a playlist, etc.
 
Now, you can go farther than that with a dedicated machine. Higher end USB ouput cards, power filters, etc. Imho this stuff matters but isn't crucial at all, and personally I'd rather buy a purpose built machine like Aurender than wrestle with it myself. Even a basic laptop will sound quite good. The Aurender will sound better, but depending on your system, room, and listening habits, it may not be a big enough difference to matter.
 
Regarding streaming services, see below....
 
  I've been looking for a good one for a long, long time.....
 
Have a subscription with classicalarchives.com:  lots of artists but unfortunately they tend to go for cheaper editions (Naxos).  Then there's Spotify premium, they seriously enlarged their classical offer and to be fair, it's not bad imo.  Of course lots of mainstream compilations but also quite specialised works.  Only fly in the ointment is the interface that absolutely sucks to organise a library.  
 
Some people also like Qobuz, I don't know, they don't offer the variety that Spotify premium has.  Tidal's not available where I am.  If you find an interesting one that's not mentioned, please post.

 
Classicalarchives.com is a great site, but unfortunately their streaming service is only 160k AAC - which is certainly listenable but does lose some of the magic imho. Same with 320k mp3 from Spotify.
 
On a budget, I really like OraStream Classical HD which is $7.99 a month. It offers lossless, CD quality streaming of a pretty good catalog, mainly from independent labels - Naxos, Marco Polo, Amadis, Altissimo, Capriccio and Dynamic, Orophone, Proprius and Sittel. They also have some hi-res content in various PCM formats up to 24-bit/192kHz which can be streamed without any extra fees. The user interface is a little hard to work with at times, and I find it better for browsing or music discovery than finding specific releases. They claim to be improving it though so we'll see. The library has a few hundred thousand tracks and they add hundreds or thousands per week, so it's growing fairly quickly.
 
Then there's Tidal, which has a massive library in the many millions. It works well and sounds great (identical to OraStream or just a plain CD for the most part) and the $20/month seems reasonable, assuming it works where you live. 
 
The tricky part on these? You'll have to figure out a way to control them. Tidal supposedly has a way of working with JRiver in which case your JRemote setup would presumably do the trick (I haven't done this yet). OraStream has tablet apps but that's for playing on the tablet itself, not controlling the player on another PC. You'd have to use some type of screen mirroring app to get your desktop duplicated on your tablet, which is doable but the experience may not be as smooth as you'd like. 
 
Nov 29, 2014 at 11:40 AM Post #900 of 5,977
@Project86:  Thanks for the tip; I took a look at Orastream but a couple of -admittedly not mainstream- artists such as Graindelavoix (early music) and well known violinist Rachel Podger yielded nothing, nor did Masaaki Suzuki, one of the references for Bach cantatas.  Those are all available on spotify currently, the 320 kbps mp3 encoding is ok for me, I know there's no agreement about this but I can't reliably distinguish between that or CD redbook anyway.  Waiting impatiently for Tidal to arrive.
 

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