[Dreaming Jester]

  Ok I have been following this thread and the discussion about the XMOS not supporting 176.4
Well I am able to play 176.4 files on my V850 using Amarra and my MAC's so am I missing something here or is the no support strictly a Windows based problem with the XMOS?
 
My Amarra software shows the the it is playing gall my 176.4 files at 176.4.

 
I asked the same Windows question a few days ago. 

 

[Dreaming Jester]

BTW, I believe the Benchmark DAC2 and the Grace m920 are also XMOS based and none has this particular limitation. Don't know if this have something to do with the use of Sabre chips. 

 

[project86]

I'm unfamiliar with Amarra so I'm not sure what could be going on there. Sorry. If it works and doesn't sound weird then I wouldn't give it much more thought.
 
As for the DAC2 and m920, those likely use a different variation from XMOS. 

 

[Blackrain]

Actually my Wadia 321 Sabre based DAC & XMOS USB also plays 176.4 with my MACs without an issue via Amara.
So for me neither the Burr Brown Based V850 or the Sabre based Wadia have anny issues with 176.4 files on my MAC via Amara.
Both DACs are XMOS USB.

 

[Dreaming Jester]

Maybe Mr. Reim will chime in and explain about V850 XMOS. Violectric may have really good reasons to choose this particular chipset and implementation. That said, if you are able to play 176.4 kHz through the USB input of the V850, it could probably be sth Windows-related. 

 

[GioF71]

wow, how many 176.4kHz sample rate songs do you guys own?  And surely those tracks have alternate sample rates you can download...

Very few in reality, so it's not really a show stopper for such an appealing product.
Still, one might want to do 4x upsampling for redbook material, so that sampling rate support might be useful.
In the specific case of the v850, which natively support customizable upsampling, this is definitely a minor issue.
From what I read in the latest post it might even be driver-related, am I right?

 

[fdg]

I´m chiming in ...

First of all I am glad that there are some folks carefully reading the manual AND our web site.
So all our efforts are not in vain

Iindeed there are some things to adjust together with the 192 kHz X-Mos USB interface.
 
And the answer concerning the sample rate / resolution with the X-Mos USB chip-set differs again for Windows and Mac.
 
Mac users can be glad because the X-Mos chip-set supports:
- all sample rates: 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, 196 kHz
- both resolutions 16 and 24 bit
... and all this for all current OS without the need of proprietary drivers
 
Windows users must have installed at least Windows 7 for the X-Mos chip-set - but all newer OS, namely 8, 8.1 and 10 are stable working.
They also have to download the driver from our web site which supports:
- 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, 196 kHz sample rate with 16 bit resolution !!!
- 44.1, 48, 96 and 192 kHz sample rate with 24 bit resolution - NO 88.2, NO 176.4 with 24 bit resolution !!!

So the rather rare double or quad speed files have to be converted to another sample rate before.
Red-book compatible material (44.1 kHz) is better converted inside V850 to a higher sample rate that inside the computer.
The sample-rate converter integrated in V850 will surely do a better job !
 
So I would rather suggest that the Tenor 8802 chip-set would be the better solution for the Windows world as it supports 
the complete set like the X-Mos solution does for Macs ...
 
Thank you,
Fried Reim

 

[Dreaming Jester]

Thank you, Mr. Reim! That's been a really useful clarification I'm sure everyone carefully considering your latest product will appreciate. May I ask when the V850 will be available through Thomman? 

 

[gonzfi]

Thank you, Mr. Reim! That's been a really useful clarification I'm sure everyone carefully considering your latest product will appreciate. May I ask when the V850 will be available through Thomman? 

Thomann told me December but it's not on there yet....

 

[fdg]

@ gonzfi
 
... so why not purchase from www.violectric.de ??
Or was there ever a Thomann answer to your questions ?

 

[naimless]

I've reluctantly decided to sell my Dac V850 so if anyone is interested just pm me ,I'll be putting it in the classified section tomorrow night .

 

[Dreaming Jester]

I've reluctantly decided to sell my Dac V850 so if anyone is interested just pm me ,I'll be putting it in the classified section tomorrow night .

Reluctantly but still selling? Could you tell more about it?

 

[mulder01]

 
Reluctantly but still selling? Could you tell more about it?

 
All his files are encoded in 176.4...
 

 

 

[Dreaming Jester]

  @ gonzfi
 
... so why not purchase from www.violectric.de ??
Or was there ever a Thomann answer to your questions ?

 

   
All his files are encoded in 176.4...
 

 

Witty comments and not enough straightforward answers. Is it really so hard?

 

[Dreaming Jester]

On a more practical note - does the new V850 support the so called integer mode playback?