[nmatheis]

www.aliexpress.com/item/Venture-Electronic-VE-Zen-high-impedance-320-ohms-earbud/32302987270.html

here you can see the black case...    im praying for mine to be some other colour

Same case the Dukes come with. Nice!

 

[mochill]

I got a zipper case with my review unit as well

 

[DJScope]

I've been going backwards and forwards all day with the Zen 1 and Zen 2 and I gotta say that these may as well be 2 separate products. The Zen 1.0 is a cold more, flatter and a little bit more refined. It's better for critical listening but is a bit boring. The Zen 2.0 on the other hand is more like its little brother the Monk. It's bold and fun. It has that amazing organic note that the Monk has with very good sense of space and air (note that the air is thickened from the extra bass it is not congested in any way). 
 

 

[nmatheis]

Take off those foams on the 2.0 and 1.0 sounds warmer, lol :wink_face:

 

[Brooko]

Other way around Nic - foams add warmth (graphs showed it clearly)
 
Taking them away leans things out.

 

[nmatheis]

Other way around Nic - foams add warmth (graphs showed it clearly)

Taking them away leans things out.

I meant take foams off the 2.0, and the 1.0 will then sound warmer. Guess that wasn't clear?

Edited my previous post to make that clear

 

[Brooko]

So you mean 1 with foams on and 2 with foams off? OK - that I can agree on.

 

[waynes world]

^ Not confused at all lol! 
 
This though I can wrap my brain around happily (while I wait for my 2.0's)...
 

  The Zen 2.0 on the other hand is more like its little brother the Monk. It's bold and fun. It has that amazing organic note that the Monk has with very good sense of space and air (note that the air is thickened from the extra bass it is not congested in any way). 

 

[DJScope]

I meant take foams off the 2.0, and the 1.0 will then sound warmer. Guess that wasn't clear?

Edited my previous post to make that clear

Unfair comparison. Its gotta be done with the same scenario. My test is both with Heigh foam donuts.

I'm not a fan of commando as it hurts my ears.

 

[waynes world]

Unfair comparison. Its gotta be done with the same scenario. My test is both with Heigh foam donuts.

I'm not a fan of commando as it hurts my ears.

  
I'm glad that your impressions were based on the mighty heigle foams, since that's what I was using with my 1.0's (before I had to kiss them goodbye).

 

[DJScope]

  
I'm glad that your impressions were based on the mighty heigle foams, since that's what I was using with my 1.0's (before I had to kiss them goodbye).

Lee was kind enough of sending me half a pallet of those foams. LOL. I swear, I think there was more foams in volume than there was earphones.

 

[nmatheis]

  So you mean 1 with foams on and 2 with foams off? OK - that I can agree on.

 
Yup. That's the way I use them. Haven't felt the need to try 2.0 with foams on yet, but I won't use 1.0 without foams.

 

[nmatheis]

Unfair comparison. Its gotta be done with the same scenario. My test is both with Heigh foam donuts.

I'm not a fan of commando as it hurts my ears.

 
Unfair comparison? Why?

 

[DJScope]

Unfair comparison? Why?

Unfair because I am comparing the difference between the two. To do this properly you need to compare them under the same scenario, hence why volume matching is so important. By adding any kind of factor that may influence the sound you would need to do the same to both, otherwise you are putting one of them under an unfair disadvantage. Of course this may not be the case when comparing two completely different types of gear but because they are both the same product ie Zen, I want to see what the changes are in the new one.

 

[zenpunk]

The changes have been described in great detail so far. I don't think there are the same product at all, well, except from both being earbuds. Liike many I can't listen to those with covers. Even the ear hooks seem to affect their sound negatively in my case, maybe because they obstruct some opening at the beck of the driver.
My main issue is that naked they are not that comfortable and are not stable enough in my ears so i keep readjusting them.
So far I think i enjoy the sound of the V1.0 more even it the V2.0 is more capable technically.