[bcowen]

Just a sweet little amp....listening this am with a new NOS dac, the Vali 2+ and ADX 5000's a wonderful listen.

Totally agree. The Vali 2 is one of the best price/performance deals in all of audio, IMO.

I've been an audio addict with 2-channel systems for many, many years, but only got into headphones a few years ago. The Vali 2 was my first HP amp. When I bought a Lyr 3 a while later I (stupidly) sold the Vali thinking I'd no longer need it. Missed it so much I went and bought another.

Killer sound with this Brimar (Footscray plant) CV4033. Yeah, so it's a $110 tube in a $150 amp. But I always strive for consistency in being ridiculous.

 

[bcowen]

My bad, shoulda specified classic car parts

You should try adding methanol injection to your mower too

LOL! But then what would I drink?

 

[ledzep]

Totally agree. The Vali 2 is one of the best price/performance deals in all of audio, IMO.

I've been an audio addict with 2-channel systems for many, many years, but only got into headphones a few years ago. The Vali 2 was my first HP amp. When I bought a Lyr 3 a while later I (stupidly) sold the Vali thinking I'd no longer need it. Missed it so much I went and bought another.

Killer sound with this Brimar (Footscray plant) CV4033. Yeah, so it's a $110 tube in a $150 amp. But I always strive for consistency in being ridiculous.

That's a pile of schiit alright

 

[jonathan c]

Only 20? Try 100, now we’re talkin’



(yes, not an amp, but an oscilloscope.. vaguely related in some sense at least )

Try ENIAC (Electronic Numerical Integrator And Computer: 1945). Tubes: 17,000+

 

[bcowen]

Try ENIAC (Electronic Numerical Integrator And Computer: 1945). Tubes: 17,000+

Dang. Then I'm about 1000 short. Off to Ebay....

I wonder if using GE tubes will lead to data corruption?

 

[jonathan c]

Dang. Then I'm about 1000 short. Off to Ebay....

I wonder if using GE tubes will lead to data corruption?

Actually, since it was completed by 1945, maybe ENIAC started with RCAs, KenRads…before GE bought KR and ####ed it up…

 

[tafens]

Try ENIAC (Electronic Numerical Integrator And Computer: 1945). Tubes: 17,000+

Well that trumps most, if not all, other things with regard to tube count!

Now let’s see.. 17000 tubes.. assuming 6.3V/0.6A heaters that comes out to..
about 60kW of heater wattage alone.
Toasty!

 

[ledzep]

Well that trumps most, if not all, other things with regard to tube count!

Now let’s see.. 17000 tubes.. assuming 6.3V/0.6A heaters that comes out to..
about 60kW of heater wattage alone.
Toasty!

Let's bring out the big guns !

 

[InvisibleInk]

Left is the Amperex Holland ECC88​

NOS made in The Netherlands (Holland) in the 1960s

​

 

[jonathan c]

Let's bring out the big guns !

Can you imagine the cost of re-tubing via: Bangybang, cartago_delenda_est, menifee, wege_high_tubes? Probably 25% of US Gross Domestic Product! …

 

[adydula]

Let's bring out the big guns !

Yeah but it couldnt play "flacs"!!!
LOL!!

 

[jonathan c]

Yeah but it couldnt play "flacs"!!!
LOL!!

just…..intercept & destroy…..…..

 

[Neweymatt]

Totally agree. The Vali 2 is one of the best price/performance deals in all of audio, IMO.

I've been an audio addict with 2-channel systems for many, many years, but only got into headphones a few years ago. The Vali 2 was my first HP amp. When I bought a Lyr 3 a while later I (stupidly) sold the Vali thinking I'd no longer need it. Missed it so much I went and bought another.

Killer sound with this Brimar (Footscray plant) CV4033. Yeah, so it's a $110 tube in a $150 amp. But I always strive for consistency in being ridiculous.

I’m curious, what differences you perceive between the Vali2 and Lyr3?

Last year I was looking at Lyr3 pretty closely, but decided to get a Vali2+ and Jot2 instead, as they are much newer in their product release lifecycle, whereas the Lyr3 seemed due for a refresh. With the recent release of Lyr+, I’m thinking of this again…

 

[bcowen]

I’m curious, what differences you perceive between the Vali2 and Lyr3?

Last year I was looking at Lyr3 pretty closely, but decided to get a Vali2+ and Jot2 instead, as they are much newer in their product release lifecycle, whereas the Lyr3 seemed due for a refresh. With the recent release of Lyr+, I’m thinking of this again…

Similar voicing, but Lyr 3 is kinda more of everything. Bigger soundstage, more dynamic, more punch and impact in the bass, more 'thereness' in the mids, etc to my ears. It's not like the Vali 2 just falls on its face in comparison, not at all. Just that the Lyr 3 is it's bigger, more accomplished brother if you will, and it should sound better for 3x+ the price. Some of this can be due to tubes too.

 

[Pondoro]

I’m curious, what differences you perceive between the Vali2 and Lyr3?

Last year I was looking at Lyr3 pretty closely, but decided to get a Vali2+ and Jot2 instead, as they are much newer in their product release lifecycle, whereas the Lyr3 seemed due for a refresh. With the recent release of Lyr+, I’m thinking of this again…

I’ve had a Vali 2 for more than a year, a Saga for several months, a Lyr 3 for two weeks. I love the Vali. The Saga + sounds “bigger” like it has more substance in all the instruments and vocals. The Lyr came with a multibit module and I installed it in the system that had the Vali. My early impression is more of the same, the Lyr seems to make a bigger difference than the Saga. But it has the multibit DAC and I have not yet done a Lyr vs Saga comparison. I don’t test blind or switch directly from one to the other. I listen to entire songs or CDs. I listen for a week or two, but in these cases the difference seemed obvious right away. With an adapter you can run a 6SN7 tube in a Vali, that seems to help my Vali. I have only tried 2 or three different 6SN7’s in the Vali, none costing a lot.