I just felt like largemouth bass actually kept things interesting and put some of you in your place once in awhile when you get out of control and over the top. Trying to wade through this thread over the past few months just trying to see updates Val posts or what "actual info" has come out is exhausting. Reading some of you post about wanting Val to give you the sun, moon, and stars with your headphone purchase is beyond annoying. He is kind enough to keep us in the loop while trying to run a business and launch a new product, unlike most companies. When he doesn't post quick enough with an update...more crying. He also includes a lot of extras along with your headphones but it doesn't ever seem like enough for some of you. Now you in particular are IMO taking advantage of his extra nice no questions asked 60 day return policy so you can compare any other headphones you might think compete in the price range...and not only that, you tell the owner that you are going to do so. All the while going on and on about on about wanting a teal color and this and that and two logos printed on either side of your shields. Please tell me what the discount code is, is the discount code still valid?, blah, blah, blah. One minute you are on V Moda so hard its annoying, then the next it doesn't seem like they are going to ever be good enough for you. If I was running a company I wouldn't want you to buy my product because you would probably never be satisfied. Val is probably way too nice and diplomatic to tell you that though and would gladly take your business and try and do everything to make you happy. I'm guessing you'd complain if you won the lottery. I'm sure my post will get deleted or I'll get banned before I even get past three posts but seriously some of you need to chill out...step away from the computer before you post every little thing that pops into your head.