powertoold
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Hey Staxers,
I bought an O2 from Justin (Headamp) and am not satisfied with his description and the condition of it. He suggested I ask your opinions about the matter:
Link to F/S listing: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f10/fs...-404-a-401125/
Justin's message: Quote:
There are several reasons I thought his description wasn't accurate:
If you look at the pictures in his listing, they don't show any of the imperfections. Even the pictures of the pads were taken of the nice looking portion. Since he didn't mention any imperfections and said the O2s were in "very good condition", I assumed there was nothing of significance. Normally, Head-Fi listings would mention scratches, dents, and whatnot. And since this was a listing by Headamp, I thought I could rely on the description more. subtle was also selling his O2 in "excellent" condition, but I decided to go with Justin
I know that the AudiogoN scale isn't perfect for headphones, but people get the idea and do use it for headphones. For reference, here is the description for "very good":
Quote:
Anyway, I want to know if my disappointment is warranted. I know that I'm picky, but the problem here is the description! Rarely am I unsatisfied with the condition of my purchases, as they are often as expected. The last time I was this unsatisfied was 7 years ago when I received a shoe that was worn for "one basketball game" that looked like it was used for two years
Thanks for your inputs!
I bought an O2 from Justin (Headamp) and am not satisfied with his description and the condition of it. He suggested I ask your opinions about the matter:
Link to F/S listing: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f10/fs...-404-a-401125/
Justin's message: Quote:
The Audiogon scale has no specific grading for headphones. I have seen many used pairs of Omega II MK1 and it's not deceptive to call this pair "good condition". If you disagree feel free to ask Head-Fi's opinion |
There are several reasons I thought his description wasn't accurate:
- There are at least 4 of these scrapes on the leather head frame: http://www.xpute.com/headamp/IMGP7538.JPG
- There are two small craters near the Stax logo of the left earspeaker: http://www.xpute.com/headamp/IMGP7547.JPG
- The pads look worn: http://www.xpute.com/headamp/IMGP7539.JPG
- The pair seems to be well-used in general.
- On the AudiogoN scale, these imperfections would qualify for a "Fair" description (which Justin disagrees with): 6 / 10 - Fair - 3 to 4 minor scratches, or 1 major scratch, appears used. -- Electronics may have one major scratch (over 2" long, deep enough to show metal) or a slight dent on one of the surfaces. The item must NOT have any major scratches on the front facia, but may have some nicks along the top front edge. Chrome may show obvious pitting, but should not have any flakes. Transformer covers may have some scratches, but cannot show any rust. Silk-screening is separating from the glass in more than one area, and some lettering is worn off, but the glass must have no cracks or chips.
If you look at the pictures in his listing, they don't show any of the imperfections. Even the pictures of the pads were taken of the nice looking portion. Since he didn't mention any imperfections and said the O2s were in "very good condition", I assumed there was nothing of significance. Normally, Head-Fi listings would mention scratches, dents, and whatnot. And since this was a listing by Headamp, I thought I could rely on the description more. subtle was also selling his O2 in "excellent" condition, but I decided to go with Justin
I know that the AudiogoN scale isn't perfect for headphones, but people get the idea and do use it for headphones. For reference, here is the description for "very good":
Quote:
8 / 10 - Very good - Perfect front face, 1 minor flaw on top or side is acceptable. This item has seen some use, but still appears perfect from the front. A perfect front face plate includes the front top edge. Be sure and check this edge since it is very easy to nick. On speakers, all four front edges should be inspected. Electronics may have 1 or 2 minor scratches (max 1/2" long, very thin) on the top plate or the sides of electronics, but again, the front must be perfect. There should be no signs of rack mounting. Chrome should have no pitting, but may have some discoloration in spots less than 1/4" diameter. Silk-screening has no separations, and the lettering shows no wear. |
Anyway, I want to know if my disappointment is warranted. I know that I'm picky, but the problem here is the description! Rarely am I unsatisfied with the condition of my purchases, as they are often as expected. The last time I was this unsatisfied was 7 years ago when I received a shoe that was worn for "one basketball game" that looked like it was used for two years
Thanks for your inputs!