[Blitzula]

Yeah, that money disparity can't last forever. And if the source of new money is outside the UFC, I see a lot of fighters moving around at some point.

That's why I think we should enjoy all the great matchups we see today. Someday this will be like boxing, where people protect their record, avoid big fights, and the best matchups aren't made or delayed because of all the different promoters/organizations.

 

[EyeAmEye]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif In UFC system to make money its all about making a name and fan base with exciting fights not all about winning. Liddell made 500K in loss to Evans who made only 120k Some fighters are very low on pay scale Fighter payouts Dana White thinks the Lesnar vs Couture fight could draw 1 million PPV customers

It can't be all about winning, but the success of the company relies on drawing fan money. Chuck Liddell will sell a PPV on name alone, Rashad Evans wouldn't. Maybe somewhere down the road he will, and he will enjoy the same money Liddell does now. In a perfect world ability would dictate, but it's far from perfect ain't it? Kimbo Slice likely earns more than 90% of MMA fighters, how sad is that?

I believe Dana White might be right. This PPV is going to be huge. He'd better hope nobody gets hurt in the next 2 months.

 

[laxx]

Look at the Fedor vs Sylvia fight. Fedor got paid like $300k while Tim Sylvia got paid $900k. It's all about your exposure.

 

[DarkAngel]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif In UFC system to make money its all about making a name and fan base with exciting fights not all about winning. Liddell made 500K in loss to Evans who made only 120k Some fighters are very low on pay scale Fighter payouts Dana White thinks the Lesnar vs Couture fight could draw 1 million PPV customers

Another way to to look at these numbers, Liddell got 500K in loss and three biggest winners combined don't equal that!

Henderson 250K
Evans 120K
Franklin 100K

 

[EyeAmEye]

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Originally Posted by laxx /img/forum/go_quote.gif Look at the Fedor vs Sylvia fight. Fedor got paid like $300k while Tim Sylvia got paid $900k. It's all about your exposure.

Those figures are bull and have been highly suspect since they were released.

 

[Mr. Tadashi]

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif Another way to to look at these numbers, Liddell got 500K in loss and three biggest winners combined don't equal that! Henderson 250K Evans 120K Franklin 100K

It is most likely because they concsiter Liddell a huge draw, had he won he would of been paid double the amount. Other factors in pay that are factored in later for some fighters is the additional pay they get from PPV buys.

 

[DarkAngel]

Couture vs Lesnar
I hope Randy is not looking past this fight.
I was reading where Couture got a 3 fight UFC deal, Lesnar is first up and hopefully Fedor match will get done as one of remaing fights......at least that was his impression after talikng to Dana White and getting back in UFC. He almost talks like this fight is just a stepping stone waiting for Fedor

However as we know Leasnar can take any fighter down to the mat at will in UFC or any other league, someday he may learn how to inflict serious damage once his opponent is down. Perhaps Brock can learn quickly in next few months so Randy beware.......

 

[Blitzula]

I think Fedor would beat Couture. I saw Fedor for the first time against Sylvia, and have since gone back and seen his other fights. He really lives up to the hype.

If Lesnar does beat Couture, I'd be fascinated by a Fedor/Lesnar matchup.

 

[Borat]

Am I the only one that doesn't care about Brock Lesnar in MMA? He is such a boring fighter. I actually fell asleep watching that fight against Herring. He displays virtually no technique. His fights are just demonstrations of brute strength. Yawn.

Give me Fedor/Couture, Fedor/Arlovski, Fedor/Barnett, Couture/Arlovski, Couture/Nogueira, and Couture/Barnett II.

Couture/Lesnar is such a waste of a fight. Couture only has 3 fights left in him and they're just wasting one of them. I know it's for the money and it will draw interest from casual fans/pro wrestling entertainment fans. I just don't care. Ideally, Randy's last 3 fights should be against Fedor, Nogueira, and Arlovski. They, along with Tim Sylvia (who Randy has already faced), have been the best heavyweights in the sport's history thus far.

If Brock beats Couture, it won't happen because he's a superior fighter. For one, he is just a much larger man than Couture is. But mostly it will be because MMA has the "anything can happen" element more than any other combat sport. This is due to the variety of different attacks, the use of barely there 4 oz. gloves, and the flawed-for-MMA 10-point must system used by the UFC.

If Couture ends up losing, that would really sour a superfight between him and Fedor. I know Couture and Fedor (and the hardcore fans) really want that fight to happen, but the UFC just doesn't need it. They will most likely make more money with this fight between Couture and Lesnar so they don't even have to pursue Fedor's services.

 

[screwdriver]

Anderson silva is the P for P best but he has four loses in his career - have you guys seen how he lost the 2?

here is a few links :

loss against ryo chonan in PRIDE This one is unbelievable :
YouTube - Anderson Silva caught flying scissor heel hook


loss against daiju takase PRIDE :
YouTube - anderson silva gets beaten http://www.myvideoposting.com/

 

[briank996]

Aside from how you feel about chix competing in MMA. Does anyone think that Gina Carano is the hottest thing ever?

 

[DarkAngel]

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Originally Posted by briank996 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Aside from how you feel about chix competing in MMA. Does anyone think that Gina Carano is the hottest thing ever?

Why don't they get the real best woman in MMA to fight for Elite XC - Tara LaRosa, she would easily beat Gina with her ground game and submissions

Don't forget tonight on CBS TV:
Kimbo Slice vs Ken Shamrock

Also Andre Arlovski was added to the TV card going up against IFL heavyweight Roy "big country" Nelson
(if Shamrock looses then we could see Kimbo Slice vs Arlovski)

 

[Cousin Patty]

I dont like Ken Shamrock so Im rooting for Kimbo. Hopefully he's been working on his cardio.

 

[ZepFloyd]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif Why don't they get the real best woman in MMA to fight for Elite XC - Tara LaRosa, she would easily beat Gina with her ground game and submissions Don't forget tonight on CBS TV: Kimbo Slice vs Ken Shamrock Also Andre Arlovski was added to the TV card going up against IFL heavyweight Roy "big country" Nelson (if Shamrock looses then we could see Kimbo Slice vs Arlovski)

doesnt look like shamrock is fighting...and kimbo hasnt agreed to fight whatever replacement

Exclusive: Shamrock Injured, Tonight's Main Event In Jeopardy - MMARated.com

MMARated.com has learned from several very reliable sources that Ken Shamrock sustained a cut above his eye in the last 24 hours while training and WILL NOT be fighting in tonight's main event bout against Kimbo Slice.

EliteXC officials are scrambling to find a last minute replacement for Shamrock. Amazingly, we have heard that Shamrock's brother, Frank, who is calling the event for CBS, offered to step in at the last minute but is ultimately not fighting. EliteXC has offered Slice a last-minute replacement in the form of Seth Petruzelli. Petruzelli was scheduled to fight Aaron Rosa tonight.

As of right now, Kimbo has yet to officially accept the fight.

More as we hear it.

 

[DarkAngel]

What
Shamrock gets injured 24hrs before the fight...........what a joke!

I say make main event Andre Arlovski vs Kimbo Slice and give the fans a real fight

Good thing this wasn't PPV event, everyone would want thier money back