[Davesrose]

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Originally Posted by mrdeadfolx /img/forum/go_quote.gif 1080i is not even as good as 720p.

What a mis-informed comment. On a LCD or plasma screen, 1080i gives you higher resolution then 720p. It's 1920x1080 resolution at 30fps. 720p is 55% less image at 60fps. With particular TVs and de-interlacers, you might see motion artifacts with an interlace source. But by and large, when you have a movie that requires a higher resolution (ie 1080i with broadcast or 4k, 8k for video work) interlace is used. Content that uses higher framerate such and video games and sports, require higher framerate over high resolutions.

 

[dj_mocok]

I think that's a bit of generalisation, because some non Full HD can really beat the crap out of this so called Full HD display. Look at Pioneer Kuro for example, it's not a full HD, but I don't know what they do with the display, all I know is it's seriously beautiful and capable of producing excellent pictures.

 

[rsaavedra]

Resolution is so frequently overrated:

From: HDTV resolution explained - HDTV World - CNET reviews
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How important is resolution? Not as important as you might think. According to the Imaging Science Foundation, a group that consults for home-theater maufacturers and trains professional video calibrators, the most important aspect of picture quality is contrast ratio, the second most important is color saturation, and the third is color accuracy. Resolution comes in a distant fourth, despite being easily the most-talked-about HDTV spec today.

 

[dj_mocok]

Just had a look at what I think was 60" Kuro LX (Full HD one) at the shop yesterday. It was set in a small room with dimmed light, playing Spiderman 3 Bluray.

I must say there's nothing to fault from that TV, everything is just perfect. But I can buy a small car with the same amount of money, haha...

 

[asuka10456]

1080p is def better than 1080i, and on a 42" or smaller 720p would look better than 1080i. I would just find a decent deal on a 37" 720p lcd

 

[wanderman]

I much perfer 720p displays on smaller screens because I watch alot of sd content.

 

[Displayman]

First if you are purchasing any screen under 60" then as long as the screen will scale to 1080P that will work well. At 60" or bigger you can see the difference between 1920 X 1080p native resolution and one that scales to 1080p but smaller you can not see the difference.

Plasma beats LCD every time in contrast, Black Level and Speed. Also Plasma is less expensive than LCD and looks better.

I do the show NFL Today for CBS Sports as well as Katie Couric's set and Rachael Ray, Inside Edition and Local WCBS-TV and this is my field. Panasonic and Pioneer are the best units available today.

Displayman / Steven

 

[Displayman]

Blu ray is 1080p but the best broadcast feed is 1080i. The difference is that 1080i
is interlaced and 1080p is progressive scan and that is the best image available today and really looks wonderful.

Go to any store that sells Blu ray and a set that is 60" or bigger and let them play a Blu ray movie for you and you will see just how wonderful the images are.

The movie Fifth Element or Casino Royale are really good to see the deepth of the image and it looks like film and has that soft edge that we all have become accustomed to at the cinema. Good luck.

Displayman / Steven

 

[sahwnfras]

/\/\/\

Yay someone who knows what there talking about.

Plasma is way better than any LCD hands down. Iv set up samsungs best lcd (the one with led tech to), and just comparing it to sammys entry plasma, the plasma still kills it.

As for 1080p vs 1080i, pfft who cares. Which one looks better thats all that matter. I know 42 pioneer elites are only 720p and still kill anything out there. A good picture come not from just resolution, its all about the power, and the proccesors.

 

[dj_mocok]

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Originally Posted by Displayman /img/forum/go_quote.gif First if you are purchasing any screen under 60" then as long as the screen will scale to 1080P that will work well. At 60" or bigger you can see the difference between 1920 X 1080p native resolution and one that scales to 1080p but smaller you can not see the difference. Plasma beats LCD every time in contrast, Black Level and Speed. Also Plasma is less expensive than LCD and looks better. I do the show NFL Today for CBS Sports as well as Katie Couric's set and Rachael Ray, Inside Edition and Local WCBS-TV and this is my field. Panasonic and Pioneer are the best units available today. Displayman / Steven

That's what I've been noticing too. I mean I had a look at Pioneer one and it really looks impressive even if it's not a full HD. What I learned from reading through other video forums is, unfortunately the marketing people have convinced lots of people to have that "well, if it's not full HD, it ain't good" mentality.

For me the size difference between 42" and 50" totally outweigh the so called improvement of Full HD and non Full HD in 42" and 50" size. Since I am on limited budget, so I am pretty much set that by the time I am ready to buy, it will be either 50" or 42" non Full HD in Panasonic or Pioneer brand. With the money I save from not going Full HD, I can get myself a nice Playstation 3 to watch Bluray instead.

By the way, how do we know that a certain non-Full HD TV will scale to 1080p or not?

And generally speaking, I really can't go wrong if I get either 50" Panasonic or Pioneer even if it's "entry level" one right?

 

[vo328]

I often see folks talk strictly numbers when it comes to discussions around hi-def plasma and lcd sets. Rarely do folks get into discussions around the processing of the image and the types of processors/circuitry used in each of the vendors' models. I did *alot* of watching before buying my 60" Kuro. I overspent and blew my budget, but the funny thing is, I never regretted for one moment after it was delivered, setup and viewed for the first time in my home. I loved the way Pioneer just had "all the right bits" in place and everything just "worked" well to produce one heck of a viewing experience. 1080i vs 1080p? It's more about how the actual sets look... I've seen 1080i sets produce, IMHO, a nicer picture than 1080p sets, and of course, vice-versa as well.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... as is the difference between 1080i and 1080p.

 

[dj_mocok]

So you got the Full HD 60" Kuro yeah? We have one of those on display in a dark room at the shop, playing Spiderman 3 DVD. Jaw-dropping performance there, I was so impressed with the sharpness, the colour, the fluidity, I mean everything was perfect.

That's probably all the TV you will ever need for a long long time there.

 

[vo328]

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Originally Posted by dj_mocok /img/forum/go_quote.gif That's probably all the TV you will ever need for a long long time there.

Here's to hoping!

 

[rsaavedra]

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Originally Posted by dj_mocok /img/forum/go_quote.gif By the way, how do we know that a certain non-Full HD TV will scale to 1080p or not?

Check the specifications of the inputs.

 

[dj_mocok]

I couldn't find it anywhere. Take this link for example, it only says 1080i, so that means this set won't upscale?