[fr4c]

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Originally Posted by Daroid But I still don't feel like spending anything extras on cables and such when i don't even know what it is supposed to sound like (i.e. maxed out) after physical/psychological burn in. After all, the stock cable at least isn't oxidized lamp wire

sooner or later upgradeitis is gonna hit you and you're gonna itch for those cables....

 

[Shang-Ti Chen]

Nobody believes me that it takes at least 2 years and above of use to reach the final complete burned-in state. Have patience, 60 hours is just a slight scratch. Speaking in my experience, the loosening of the diaphragms cannot be rushed; it takes accumulation of vibration and use to loose up.

 

[Daroid]

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Originally Posted by fr4c sooner or later upgradeitis is gonna hit you and you're gonna itch for those cables....

I have had it since DT231... the problem is that the wallet is often empty so I couldn't go faster than DT231 -> HD25-1 -> HD650 in three-four years

Btw. what is the thing about "do not cover the transducers" written in the booklet ? What happens if you do it for a longer time ? - i only did it for 2 secs or so and the sound became slightly more tinny and harsh - why is that ?

2 Years ? Is that 2-4 hours a day listening or 24/7 ? Sounds awfully long...

 

[nierika]

In other news: Cables don't effect sound quality!

 

[ogewo]

The 650 stands for 650 hours of burn-in. Everybody knows that.

 

[rob1031]

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Originally Posted by Mike Scarpitti Just put them on your ears and use them. This 'burn-in' stuff is a crock of poo.....

except for the fact that a while ago this guy posted a chart on a new pair of headphones and old pair of headphones (same one) and they were almost entirely different except for the mids.


and well. just to add for it. Friend bought a pair of e2c and i was surprised how clear the mids were, but how the highs hurt my ears. after 2 weeks i listened again. whoa. that was canal phone heaven.
same to my audiotechnicas.. the highs.. heh

keep rockin!

 

[Shang-Ti Chen]

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Originally Posted by Daroid 2 Years ? Is that 2-4 hours a day listening or 24/7 ? Sounds awfully long...

Normal use I mean... if 24 hours a day it should be shorter.

 

[wali]

Download those headphone burn-in wave files and they will expedite the burn-in process (forgot the link). If you want, I can send it to you by E-mail, they're small files.

 

[Daroid]

At about 130 hours now... not positive at all... the midrange colorations have returned at about 110 hours and they really remind me very much of a cheap headset's mid-bass/midrange which is overly boomy and coherent. I'm only speaking about the midrange here of course.

Last question: Burn-in (if it exists) with such as high regarded headphone as the HD600 and HD650, is it really normal that it will sound so bad as much cheaper headphones during this process ? Would the same apply to R10 at some point in the beginning ? i.e. it's weird that the higher you move up the hierarchy the larger span of sound signatures you'll get during burn-in.

EDIT: Thanks, already have the burn in files (from a 423 mb zip/bin), and using these occasionally.

 

[Venro]

Daroid, where did you get the burn-in files?

 

[Daroid]

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Originally Posted by Venro Daroid, where did you get the burn-in files?

http://ftp3.ie.freebsd.org/pub/binkster/ tracklist is BinkAudioTestCD.txt

 

[gsferrari]

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Originally Posted by Daroid At about 130 hours now... not positive at all... the midrange colorations have returned at about 110 hours and they really remind me very much of a cheap headset's mid-bass/midrange which is overly boomy and coherent. I'm only speaking about the midrange here of course. Last question: Burn-in (if it exists) with such as high regarded headphone as the HD600 and HD650, is it really normal that it will sound so bad as much cheaper headphones during this process ? Would the same apply to R10 at some point in the beginning ? i.e. it's weird that the higher you move up the hierarchy the larger span of sound signatures you'll get during burn-in. EDIT: Thanks, already have the burn in files (from a 423 mb zip/bin), and using these occasionally.

My experience was as follows (from memory)

1-50 hours = Boomy bass, rolled off highs and sucked in mids
50 - 150 hours = no bottom end...emphasized midbass and mids and non-existent highs
150 - 300 hours = Bass returns to a controlled level, mids flourish and highs are clean and crystal clear in resolution.

From there on it has just been getting better...

Yes the transitions are shocking and frightening...sometimes I thought my drivers were gonna blow

or that I had permanently damaged the cans by overdoing it..

 

[Nak Man]

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Originally Posted by ogewo The 650 stands for 650 hours of burn-in. Everybody knows that.

Mine took 650 minutes to sound great ...

 

[Andrea]

A hearty call...

Be delicate to your 'phones when you burn them in!
Reading about burn in sometimes just makes my heart squeeze with apprehension...

 

[ranma172]

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Originally Posted by Daroid Mr. Scarpitti, He heh, I knew you would tune in sooner or later. Sometimes i'm doubting wether burn-in exists or not, but I'll bet there is something mental/psychological involved too. Can't prove anything, can't disprove it either.

I've always thought burn-in is more psychological than physical, but now I'm changing my mind. The sound of my new 650 is somewhat "closed"; more or less like Daroid's. I compare them to my old 580 and I like more the latter. My 580 sound, at least much brighter, but I think bass is also better. It's really noticeable with any source.

I hope burn-in is really physical, because if not, I will be really disappointed.

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