[vsad]

I'm in the same boat , have the andromeda and find it an amazing iem. I am also waiting on the Icarus III but not to compete with the andromeda but wanted another hybrid after selling aurisonics 2.5. My fear is the fit will be similar to the master and pm4 which to me have subpar fit ability. Next week will be here soon and those shipping notifications will be sent out and will have a taste of the Icarus line the following week, won't we.

 

[vsad]

I own the Andromeda the PM6 and the Hunter.As far as I am concerned the Andromeda is in a totally different league.After quite a bit of manipulation the PM6 is worth what I paid for, the Hunter is a disaster in my opinion.May be someone can find a way to control the treble.

 

[2Dutch]

I own the Andromeda the PM6 and the Hunter.As far as I am concerned the Andromeda is in a totally different league.After quite a bit of manipulation the PM6 is worth what I paid for, the Hunter is a disaster in my opinion.May be someone can find a way to control the treble.

Trinity does have a 14 day return policy for when you're not happy with your purchase.

14 Day satisfaction guarantee

You know you’re in safe hands with TRINITY, our products have a 14 day money back guarantee. If you change your mind, just return it unused, in its original condition with your receipt and we’ll either exchange it or give you a full refund.

Maybe contact them and let them know about the treble and ask them for more time to fix it/extended return period. Would be a shame if the treble cannot be fixed and you're stuck with a product you are not happy with. I was able to return a product that did not work out for me (bluetooth unit for delta) after more than 14 days and received a full refund (I would have been happy with 50% or 70%). Not sure how they would handle such things right now though..

 

[MLTKSHHBT]

[QUOTE="Intensecure;
your product needs to sound great out of the box - then refine with filters to taste. Not as is currently happening with the PM6 initial impressions are too hot, sibilant. Then having to work with adapting foams to make it sound right.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more than this!
He personally told us: after the phantom series, there won't be any new iem for a good 2-3 years, instead would focus on marketing.

We take his words as it is, that's our trust to him, but who knows, things might have changed for him and who are we to expect him telling us the truth.
From the moment he hurriedly churned out the pm master, I know I'm not going to buy another new iem from them any more.

 

[Layman1]

After quite a bit of manipulation the PM6 is worth what I paid for.

Hi, this is interesting. Would you mind sharing what you did to make the PM6 sound better?

 

[Coubs]

So what's the score with the PM6 then? My uk order isn't here yet but I have the master and I'm really happy with them. Anyone got an opinion on the comparison between the two?

 

[HungryPanda]

Andromeda is over $1000 though so difference should be a lot better

 

[nealh]

Andromeda is over $1000 though so difference should be a lot better

Andromeda is over $1000 though so difference should be a lot better

Actually there should be a difference in quality given there is a difference in price.
However, Bob raised expectations when he stated that he expected Hunter to compete and match IEMs that cost £1000

It's natural when you put out a top-of-the-line product and hype it that people will compare it to all types of competition. I also understand you have to go back and then look at the price points and the development of cycle to be fair and reasonable

Hunter may be a good buy at $600 price point although unfortunately some of the reviews are reviewing a very consistent set of issues

 

[Intensecure]

Andromeda is over $1000 though so difference should be a lot better

Campfire products are made in America, which carries a premium. Trinity's are likely China or SE Asia components, maybe final assembly in the UK. All the aspects of the campfire products are premium, the casing is superb, the carry case is leather not plastic - all things that add up. They have B-stock that looks almost perfect! They aim very high in quality.
Trinity stated the aim to compete with this level of competition, use branded high quality BA drivers, and add some nice touches such as 2x 8-wire litz cables, aiming for the top level, so the sound should definitely be comparable as well.
If the Andromeda is too much, comparison with Dorado, Lyra or Nova seems more than fair, and hopefully someone can do that.

 

[JaeYoon]

Lol I think Dorado is still well beyond (Sorry trinity).
But definitely Nova and Lyra 2, also Jupiter (B-stock price is around 549 usd).
Orion if you want.

But definitely I would prefer campfire build quality over trinity. The way Campfire makes their shells are fantastic and a lot of love and care for each one.

While Trinity's are made by a kid in Shenzhen or some other city trying to survive or a family who desperately needs money to survive. Not the same feeling of resolvement.

But still Trinity iems overall are still good.

 

[Jackpot77]

As an owner of the Andro and Hunter (along with the Vega from CA and the Zeus-XR from Empire Ears), I find the Hunter offers something different from the other three TOTL models. Is it better it equal in terms of sound quality and achievement? For me, no, it's not. It's not the disaster some people are suggesting, however - far from it.

The treble is razor sharp on some filters, and the sound is heavily biased towards an analytical rather than musical tone. That being said, the emphasis on the high mids and low treble does make it sound like an absolute detail monster with the right track, the staging is impressive and some music does sound downright impressive with the Hunter. It does need power and a warm source to really hit top gear, too.

Overall, it's a very detailed take on what you would imagine a true "audiophile" tuning would have been described as a few years ago (flat, reference etc). The Campfire gear is tuned for musicality over analysis, despite their very capable technical capacities. That's the overriding impression I get when I put the Andro or Vega in my ears - it just sounds like toe-tapping, enjoyable music. Crystal clear, drift-away-in-the-moment music.

The Andro is no slouch in the clarity and detail areas either, but you have to listen harder to pick up the nuances, as they just pop out of the background rather than being served up on a plate into your brain by the Hunter. For some tracks, this is a major bonus, and on others, less impressive.

I've only had the Zeus around a week, but they probably exemplify what the Hunter could aim for with a bit of a tweak to the tuning. The Zeus are effortlessly detailed without being sharp or harsh, and sound musical and hyper defined at the same time. If Bob can bring a bit more soul and warmth into the background tuning of the Hunter and get a handle on the screaming heat on some filters (not all) then the Hunter could potentially make a jump up from high mid tier to real flagship territory. That's a big if, but it has some unique qualities to the sound that the others don't so if they could be harnessed into a more user friendly overall tone then that would be something really worth shouting about.

Long story short - for the extra money, the Andro and Vega are worth it for me, but the Hunter has impressed me in some facets, and has that certain undefined something that makes me want to listen to it, which is always a good indicator. For their price point, and if you can with the intended analytical tuning, the Hunter certainly compete for me.

For the record, I'm not treble sensitive, but I don't like hot treble things and generally prefer darker and more organic sounding high end.

Hope that long table ramble made sense - will pop some more thorough comparisons in my review when I manage to get it finished!

 

[springbay]

The Zeus are effortlessly detailed without being sharp or harsh, and sound musical and hyper defined at the same time. If Bob can bring a bit more soul and warmth into the background tuning of the Hunter and get a handle on the screaming heat on some filters (not all) then the Hunter could potentially make a jump up from high mid tier to real flagship territory.

I'm not in any way saying you are wrong about some of the filters being hot on the Hunters. But what I'm not understanding is why so many expect that all filters should be to their liking. I mean, Trinity provide us with a multitude of different filters so we can find the right one according to our taste. If it's one thing I've learned since I started using Head-Fi is that most of the times we have to learn to agree about disagreeing about almost everything.
I mean I'm too lazy to alter the filters when I've found the right one for each Trinity product.
If I should complain about something, it would be that the colour coding of the filters have not been consistent through the different products. Hence I'm using purple filters on the Sabre, gold on the Atlas, gun metal on the Delta and first gen Vyrus, while I have not yet decided on whether undamped gold, blue or black filters will be my favourites on the Hunter.

 

[idchaw]

WHEN though? Very important.

Two days ago.

 

[Hi-Fi'er]

Ok update. I have spent 8 hours straight with the PM6. Quick dirty summary. I like them but they are not "perfect" in the sense of ending my search for an IEM that does it all. I wanted to believe more drivers can do more but also am completely aware more is not always better. I don't know if I am treble sensitive but I just do have good hearing and do not like sharp piercing uncontrolled or hot treble. So here are my findings so far:

Pros:

-Not heavy.
-Comfortable for long sessions.
-Slightly tip dependent but not by a lot.
-They have great detail - you will pull info with them out of songs quite easily.
-They have great separation.
-They are very, very resolving. <Notice I said resolving twice.
-They have great imaging.
-They have great depth.
-They have great height.
-They are very transparent.
-They have great dimensional ability if the music is recorded as such.
-They have great clarity (to a point see cons).
-They have good bass but not bass cannons (I like this-others may not).
-Filters make a difference but some are slight changes and some leave you desiring for something in between.
-Some songs sound amazing and clean and pure, some not even with the most treble rolled off filter.
-For the discounted price they are keepers with limitations though.
-0% distortion at any level
-Can crank at high levels and everything is still balanced.
-Bass is clean and tight and never sloppy,
-Bass never overrides the midrange.

Cons:

-They are very dependent on the filter to get them sounding maybe what you want per artist/song and when you find it, it still may leave you desiring something treble wise.
-Some songs will be so hot and untamed in the treble that you can't listen to the song and have to skip it or just turn on the EQ if you really want to listen through the song. Some may cry blasphemy some will say no big deal.

-The only filters that really tame the treble are the ones with the white filter. I initially thought the Gunmetal was ideal but after going back and forth with the Gold unfiltered I realized the Gunmetal is quite a few decibels lower. I had to keep adjusting the volume to get it back to match the Gold unfiltered. The Gunmetal is close but no cigar. It veils the highs too much I feel. You lose the sparkle and clarity.

-Now the Gold unfiltered is not perfect either. They give you more clarity and detail the Gunmetal will not but depending on the song again I vary on liking them. Some songs are not listenable and others that I love so much I have to turn on the EQ and reduce 1k-9k~12k about 2-3db in a smooth upside down U curve. Then they are just on the edge of just right where it's acceptable (at least for me).

This is just my stupid opinion, of course your impressions may/will vary.

Hope this helps.

 

[sososerious]

...But definitely I would prefer campfire build quality over trinity. The way Campfire makes their shells are fantastic and a lot of love and care for each one.

While Trinity's are made by a kid in Shenzhen or some other city trying to survive or a family who desperately needs money to survive. Not the same feeling of resolvement.

But still Trinity iems overall are still good.

Seriously? and people wonder why this thread gets derailed.

If you've visited campfires production facility and also met the 'kid in shenzhen' or the 'family struggling to survive' that makes trinity's shells then I apologize and take it back.

Waiting for the next drama over trinity using child labour, sheesh.