I understand. I was curious since the only other IEMs that uses push pull that I know of are the highly praised ATH-CKR's (which I love myself) and I was curious if you could hear similarities in the bass between them and the PM4 and if so what you didn't like....
I apologize, I haven't heard the ath-ckr's. I have listened to the sabre's and pm4's.
But i'm sensitive.... So I get to feel what the normal person feels from these IEM's in the first few listens or first listening session or two and it's wonderful. The Emotion from the detail of the pm4, especially with well mastered songs, was unparalleled with any past experience. The detail of the bass made me feel emotions to a threshold that was just a new experience, even relaxing me down to a level that was simply wonderful... But due to my sensitivity from my condition it can cross that threshold of positive feeling, and the balance is lost and I just want it to tone down.
So like if i reviewed this product, the pm4, I would review it very well despite the fact that I can't handle it, thus the nature of the sensitivity. Hence, my search for something like the hunter where it's not punchy all the time, but hopefully punchy where the bass is punchy and not where it's not. I don't want something to excite me all the time, I need something to sooth me. And I find this preference to be unfortunately in the upper tiers in terms of price, a level i may luckily be able to reach due to the this black friday discount.
OMG because when i can lay down, let go, rest, and play music that soothes, and it really helps my condition and aids in my recovery. And if the IEM is effective enough the music can actually be used as a non-pharmacological means of therapy that, from a quantitative standpoint, allows increased time of relaxation to a level that promotes rest, decreasing the amount of time my body is stressed (stress inhibits the healing process), and healing that literally quickens my own recovery, thus utilizing effectively the healing power of music, but you have to have good quality IEM's for this that play the music naturally: punchy where it's punchy, not where it's not, so to speak. The word vibrant comes to mind, where the music is played to that hue of color at that brightness it was intended to be played at, instead of being bold all the time or vivid all the time. That's why I love the Martin IMS HVA, it allows me to rest with music that lowers my relaxation to a level I can't naturally go to right now, a level that is necessary for more effective recovery.
So I'm kind of hoping for
@Bobtrinity's "hunter" side to "vibrant" things down a bit and see how he can really make a difference with his music...