[BobJS]

Fair enough, but would you agree that a phenomena can happen even if it is not witnessed?

Of course. And that's the source of the 'disagreement'. We are focusing on 2 different things.

BTW, the answer to your question is 'not always'. Schrodinger's Cat and quantum superpositions and all.

 

[Sonic Defender]

Of course. And that's the source of the 'disagreement'. We are focusing on 2 different things.

True enough. However, I am not going to give primacy to the human experience over the rest of the universe though, but that is me. If we use the human hearing system as the arbitral for such matters we are essential saying nothing exists in reality unless humans perceive it. Seems a little self-aggrandizing to subjugate all reality to our perception. I do not detect the movement of the Earth, I do not perceive the roundness of the Earth's shape and yet they exist.

We do not need the secondary, human-centric definition of sound, it serves no real purpose. We know that we have a hearing system that is designed to detect sound which tells us that sound exists beyond our experience. Absolutely sound needs to be perceived in order for us to use that information, but you can have sound without humans. IMO.

 

[sonitus mirus]

We have defined what sound is through human perception. Same thing with "visible" light. It is relative to human perception. It is a bit of a paradox of sorts.

 

[Sonic Defender]

We have defined what sound is through human perception. Same thing with "visible" light. It is relative to human perception. It is a bit of a paradox of sorts.

Actually the human perception of sound is presented as a secondary definition of sound, the primary definition of sound is not dependent on perception, it is accepted as a phenomena which exists in the realm of physics with or without a perceiving agent.

 

[Brava210]

I started using Bubble UPnP on my LG V20 as a front-end control for Tidal streaming to my DAC via my Windows PC.

It seems that Bubble is unable to access the Master quality MQA streams. I also noticed that UAPP, another popular option on Android with Tidal support, no longer plays MQA streams from Tidal. Several months ago UAPP did in fact have access to such master quality streams.

Has Tidal instituted a new API policy that blocks third-party apps such as Bubble and UAPP from being able to access the MQA streams or am I missing something with my setup?

Bubble works fine sending MQA to my Streamer

 

[BobJS]

I see definitions of sound that invoke hearing :
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sound

but I also see more rigorous ones that do not :
https://www.britannica.com/science/sound-physics

and these specifically exclude the need for hearing.

So I will consider this dead horse beaten and concede to @Sonic Defender.

 

[Curtisvill]

So I will consider this dead horse beaten and concede to @Sonic Defender.

That's to bad, I was thoroughly enjoying your debate. Carry on.

 

[waveSounds]

I will consider this dead horse beaten and concede to @Sonic Defender.

It seems Sonic Defender is living up to his username, then.

Anyone else using Tidal through UAPP experiencing issues? All I now get is an Error, something went wrong message when attempting to use it.

 

[MrWalkman]

I was one of those poe

It seems Sonic Defender is living up to his username, then.

Anyone else using Tidal through UAPP experiencing issues? All I now get is an Error, something went wrong message when attempting to use it.

All works fine for me.

 

[Neweymatt]

It seems Sonic Defender is living up to his username, then.

Anyone else using Tidal through UAPP experiencing issues? All I now get is an Error, something went wrong message when attempting to use it.

Yes. And No.

I'm not using UAPP, but I am getting inconsistent access issues as well:
My iPhone works fine.
MBP Tidal app cannot connect, getting same error as you.
SR25 builtin Tidal app worked OK earlier this morning, but now also gets "Unknown error".
SR25 side loaded .apk works OK.

So, yea, 50/50 for me atm. I'm paranoid of logging out of anything and trying to log in again, I suspect it might fail...

 

[Michalmk6]

I've been having problem with logging in to Tidal for the last few hours. I contacted support and that's a response.

 

[Neweymatt]

I've been having problem with logging in to Tidal for the last few hours. I contacted support and that's a response.

Seems like it's fixed by now...

 

[musickid]

I hear a big difference between Spotify MP3 Vs tidal hifi lossless. It's a massive leap in sound quality and I challenge anyone to listen to the same track on Spotify Vs tidal lossless.

 

[Sonic Defender]

Sorry if I came across as needing to be right (although who doesn't like being right?). I just have never understood why that tree falling word puzzle thing is given such reverence. Plus I've been home sick for a few days so got a little bored. Had a negative Covid test so I get to go back to work.

 

[sonitus mirus]

Sorry if I came across as needing to be right (although who doesn't like being right?). I just have never understood why that tree falling word puzzle thing is given such reverence. Plus I've been home sick for a few days so got a little bored. Had a negative Covid test so I get to go back to work.

I had always made a distinction between a sound wave and sound. A longitudinal pressure wave or mechanical wave was responsible for sound, but was not in all definitions, sound itself to me. But, since this physical force will impact the environment, I see it makes no logical sense to separate these ideas as they are one in the same from a technical perspective.

Glad to hear you are feeling better.