This is the most disgraceful behaviour I have ever seen

[RYCeT]

IMHO, tapping is not rude. I can imagine if I'm using a headphone and someone tap me to get my attention over something, as long as they say it nicely and polite, I don't think I will have any problem with it, yes I might be annoyed little bit and suprised but I guess it's ok, I don't live in this world alone. But if that someone tap me, and start cursing or try to make problems than I guess he wants to get his ass kicked

 

[titaniumx3]

What people need is a police state, then no one will argue!

 

[Blitzula]

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Originally Posted by Aman Remember, there is a LAW in the USA that says that a mother of a child may do ANYTHING - even if it's against the law - to protect and save her child from any danger.

I read this post and your subsequent example. I don't believe there is any such law that says you can do "ANYTHING -even if it's against the law to protect and save her child from any (emphasis added) danger".

I think you're interpreting the law and the case you cited to mean that. But perhaps you can provide a link to the actual statute.

On the etiquette of tapping someone on the shoulder, I've read a Miss Manners' book or two before. I can almost picture her saying (or me reading), "My dear, how else would you get someone's attention in a loud bowling alley when they can't hear or see you? Etiquette is practical." I can't say for 100% sure, but I strongly suspect she'd say that a polite and brief tap when there isn't an alternative is perfectly ok.

 

[Kurt]

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Originally Posted by wali You might live in Ontario (where in ontario), but you're quite ignorant of social etiquette... I suggest you try and tap people on the shoulder in Toronto and watch their reaction (I won't rule out violence).

Note to oneself:
If you ever bowl in Toronto and somebody stands on your Lane, do not tap them on the shoulder.
Instead just throw the d**** ball and say you didn’t notice the other person.

Cheers

 

[blip]

As usual the random conflicts in this thread makes me grin.

Personally I despise children anyway. Either they are squalid little animals like these or totally repressed. Ah well, they remain an unfortunate necessity. (Hey somebody has to take care of my generation when we are old!) But personally I prefer puppies to children any day.

As for the tapping, I think it seems inadvisable... not for any particular moral reason but simply because parents are almost naturally insane. You have to remember that we are, evolutionarilly, essentially child bearing and defending machines. Everything else we do occurs outside of our key evolutionary act. This creates a state of mind around children that seems more or less paranoid. This, when combined with the depersonalization and destruction of community of the modern world, makes such irrational behavior seem almost rational.

In summary, one of the few things I despise more than children is parents!

 

[Jasper994]

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Originally Posted by sahwnfras What? Thats amazing, from my experiences asian people tend to be quite rude. Especially when wating it lines, and driving. They can also get very angry very easliy.

YMMV, but it seems to me that it has more to do with differences in culture than anything else.

 

[hciman77]

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Originally Posted by blip Personally I despise children anyway. Either they are squalid little animals like these or totally repressed. Ah well, they remain an unfortunate necessity. (Hey somebody has to take care of my generation when we are old!) But personally I prefer puppies to children any day. parents are almost naturally insane. You have to remember that we are, evolutionarilly, essentially child bearing and defending machines. Everything else we do occurs outside of our key evolutionary act. This creates a state of mind around children that seems more or less paranoid. This, when combined with the depersonalization and destruction of community of the modern world, makes such irrational behavior seem almost rational. In summary, one of the few things I despise more than children is parents!

I find that many modern children have zero respect for anything and many parents treat them like little gods as opposed to the squalling mucus-dripping monsters that they really are. This does not encourage the kids to lessen their excessive behavior.

There is a family down our street where the youngest brat howls and shouts back at his parents constantly and the parents dont do anything about it. If I had behaved like that I would have been clipped round the ears, and quite right too. I do not favour corporal punishment as such but a laissez-faire approach to child discipline is just storing up problems for the future, can you say High powered rifle and bell tower

 

[Aliacha]

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Originally Posted by sahwnfras What? Thats amazing, from my experiences asian people tend to be quite rude. Especially when wating it lines, and driving. They can also get very angry very easliy.

<sarcasm>Damn. I must have some awesome line waiting skills. Unlike all those other asians!</sarcasm>

 

[blip]

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Originally Posted by Aliacha <sarcasm>Damn. I must have some awesome line waiting skills. Unlike all those other asians!</sarcasm>

lol! Well played.

 

[blip]

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Originally Posted by hciman77 . I do not favour corporal punishment as such but a laissez-faire approach to child discipline is just storing up problems for the future, can you say High powered rifle and bell tower

Actually from what I recall from Developmental Psychology, generally its corporal punishment that generates the "High powered rifle and bell tower" phenomena. Despite that, you make a good point.

Anyway, its definitely a delicate balance between authoritarianism and loose control. And, like most delicate balances, few people succeed at find it.

Personally if by some horrifying coincidence I do have a child (I'm lucky enough to have found a woman who is incredibly sweet and almost maternal but hates children more than I do!) I think I'd follow what my parents did. Both of them hated children as well, so the decided to treat me like a little adult (or maybe pseudo-adult?). Sure enough, since they expected me to act in a mature manner, I did.

 

[toor]

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You might live in Ontario (where in ontario), but you're quite ignorant of social etiquette... I suggest you try and tap people on the shoulder in Toronto and watch their reaction (I won't rule out violence).

Just wanted to add my voice to the chorus that says having lived in Toronto for 16 years I never felt this was true.

And I think the parents behaviour was quite over the top and inappropiate.

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because parents are almost naturally insane. You have to remember that we are, evolutionarilly, essentially child bearing and defending machines.

Just because people can rationalize behaviour, does not make it appropiate.

Bottom line
You don't want your kid interacting with the general population in the commonly accepted social manner then don't bring them to a public venue and not watch them.

Though it does disturb me that so many people want to fight parents and 5 year olds.

PS I would also be interested in seeing the law that permits unlawful behavior. Personally I think that both the pool and the Life Guard and completely valid suits and she should be liable.

 

[Kurt]

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Originally Posted by toor PS I would also be interested in seeing the law that permits unlawful behavior. Personally I think that both the pool and the Life Guard and completely valid suits and she should be liable.

AFAIR, selfdefence and related laws do not permit unlawful behavior per se.
Instead they exclude punishment for the criminal act, if what was done was necessary for saving oneself or somebody else.

Cheers

 

[utep10]

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Originally Posted by sahwnfras What? Thats amazing, from my experiences asian people tend to be quite rude. Especially when wating it lines, and driving. They can also get very angry very easliy.

I resemble that remark!

As a parent of a 3 and 6year old, If someone has to tap my child on the shoulder to get out of the way, I'd feel slightly embarrassed as I'm not keeping my children in line. These parents clearly have a different way of taking this.

Also, please don't be too quick to judge parents of kids who throw tantrums or talk back. My 6 year old is mildly Autistic and can be prone to throwing tantrums every now and then. I hope that someday she'll understand proper behavior. Of course, any behavior that affects other people is not tolerated.

So in all, what a waste of a good time at the bowling alley. Hope you have more fun next time.

 

[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by sahwnfras What? Thats amazing, from my experiences asian people tend to be quite rude. Especially when wating it lines, and driving. They can also get very angry very easliy.

Weren't you the same guy awhile back who said asians talked funny and some other ignorant-racist crap? (yep, just checked . . and ed's response was hilarious) I think you just don't like asians, and enjoy saying things about us cause you got some beef with the darkies. You may have your reasons, I dunno. But your prior posts regarding the race didn't seem to be anything more than just blatant offensive idiocy.

Anyways, no one is exempt from being an a-hole. It's the world's one absolute truth.

 

[RYCeT]

I just read the thread Kirosia mention http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112449
Put your racist mark somewhere else kid, we don't need one here.