This is the most disgraceful behaviour I have ever seen

[Aman]

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Originally Posted by wali The smart choice would have been to talk with their parents, and nicely.

I agree. It's the parents' faults their children are brats. Don't yell at the children and impose your own views on them. The best thing to do is put down the parents in how terribly pathetic and irresponsible they are.

Yes, the parents were being overly-protective and overly-stupid, but nobody has the right to touch somebody else's child. There are too many freaks out there in the world. Remember, there is a LAW in the USA that says that a mother of a child may do ANYTHING - even if it's against the law - to protect and save her child from any danger.

 

[Trance-Fusion]

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What? Since when is tapping so rude? And why should it be more rude to tap a child? I've never once in my life felt offended when someone has tapped me on the shoulder to get my attention.

I also think tapping someone is fine.

I wanted to say that it was lucky that wasn't my friends and I that were being yelled at by a those guys, cause there would've been a fight for sure... (i'm 16 and most of my friends are too). I think we woulda ended up in jail for a night though cause my friend carries brass knucks with him all the time...

 

[MIKEp]

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Originally Posted by Aman I agree. It's the parents' faults their children are brats. Don't yell at the children and impose your own views on them. The best thing to do is put down the parents in how terribly pathetic and irresponsible they are.

for the second time she wasnt even trying to get the kids to go back to their lane. She was merely trying to pick up the bowling ball without accidentally smoking the kid in the face.

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Yes, the parents were being overly-protective and overly-stupid, but nobody has the right to touch somebody else's child. There are too many freaks out there in the world. Remember, there is a LAW in the USA that says that a mother of a child may do ANYTHING - even if it's against the law - to protect and save her child from any danger.

I agree, these kids dont drink enough milk and they're poor little bones could have just dicintegrated under the imense pressure of the finger

 

[hciman77]

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Originally Posted by Aman but nobody has the right to touch somebody else's child.

Not even to stop them getting run over or otherwise hurt, that is absurd. I hardly think that a tap on the shoulder in a very public place by a 65 year old granny represents much of a threat.

 

[hciman77]

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Originally Posted by Aman Remember, there is a LAW in the USA that says that a mother of a child may do ANYTHING - even if it's against the law - to protect and save her child from any danger.

Is this true ?

 

[wali]

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Originally Posted by viator122 What? Since when is tapping so rude? And why should it be more rude to tap a child? I've never once in my life felt offended when someone has tapped me on the shoulder to get my attention.

I agree that what I said might sound strange, but up here in Canada, especially Ontario, personal space is very important, and you should watch people go into extremes so not to invade others personal space. Tapping on the shoulder is considered outright rude, an "excuse me" is all that's needed, even if its very noisy...

You should also remeber that an old women tapping a 5-yr-old on the back can scare the kid, thats why the mother must have overreacted.

I'm not trying to defend anyone here, just offering a different point of view to the situation.

 

[viator122]

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Originally Posted by Aman I agree. It's the parents' faults their children are brats. Don't yell at the children and impose your own views on them. The best thing to do is put down the parents in how terribly pathetic and irresponsible they are. Yes, the parents were being overly-protective and overly-stupid, but nobody has the right to touch somebody else's child. There are too many freaks out there in the world. Remember, there is a LAW in the USA that says that a mother of a child may do ANYTHING - even if it's against the law - to protect and save her child from any danger.

Sorry, there is no danger in this situation. Also, if no one has the right to touch someone else's child then no one has the right to touch another person at all and therefore all shoulder-tapping becomes illegal and immoral. Do you want to live in that world? I don't.

 

[RedLeader]

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Originally Posted by wali I agree that what I said might sound strange, but up here in Canada, especially Ontario, personal space is very important, and you should watch people go into extremes so not to invade others personal space. Tapping on the shoulder is considered outright rude, an "excuse me" is all that's needed, even if its very noisy...

Thats a blatant lie. I live in Canada, especially Ontario, and no one that I know would have ANY problem with that. My goodness, where do you live?

 

[wali]

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Originally Posted by RedLeader Thats a blatant lie. I live in Canada, especially Ontario, and no one that I know would have ANY problem with that. My goodness, where do you live?

You might live in Ontario (where in ontario), but you're quite ignorant of social etiquette... I suggest you try and tap people on the shoulder in Toronto and watch their reaction (I won't rule out violence).

 

[MIKEp]

well i live in canada too and i have never heard anything about that being bad etiquette. But i wouldnt say that all of canada is like Toronto, especially in the prairie provinces.

 

[Homeless]

I find it funny that you think it is rude to tap someone on the shoulder, yet it's ok to say excuse me, even if it is loud in the place (and i know the place this happend at because i live in the city and have many friends that bar tend there, and it is loud) To say excuse me to someone at the palasad would involve literally yelling at them to be heard over the music...and that is much more rude than a tap on the shoulder. Would a 5 year old not be scared of an adult yelling at them? I think the tap on the shoulder was perfectly aceptable, and the parents of the child severely over-reacted...

 

[Jasper994]

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Originally Posted by wali You might live in Ontario (where in ontario), but you're quite ignorant of social etiquette... I suggest you try and tap people on the shoulder in Toronto and watch their reaction (I won't rule out violence).

...please don't take this wrong, but maybe it's just you who would be so offended. I can't imagine a society in which being screamed at in a loud environment would be preferable to a gentle tap on the shoulder.

Also, as a parent, your children are your responsibility. By not looking after your children in a public place you are being rude to everyone else around you. Little children like to wander off and get into things... It's their nature. It's your job as a parent to make sure they aren't in places they don't belong. It's so very sad that we live in a time where a good number of people think that the care and upbringing of their children is someone else's responsibility. What's even more sad is that these are the same people who think they and their children should be able to do whatever they please regardless of how it affects others around them.

If your neighbor's 5 year old kid wandered onto your property with a baseball bat and started beating your car with it, do you really think you should have to go find their parent so they can put a stop to it? Get real! In the same manner, these kids weren't in their own lanes, they had wandered into other peoples lanes. The parents weren't paying attention, and that's their fault. It was the parents and children that were the offenders, not the other way around.

 

[jpr703]

I've never heard of a tap on the shoulder being considered rude, and even if it was, those people had clearly lost their right to complain about rudeness long before their child was tapped. They were most certainly just trying to provoke a confrontation and you shouldn't waste one second of your time worrying about the feelings of troglodytes like that anyway.

In that situation, you should have made it clear to the manager that he needed to ask them to leave. A very simple, "Look, these people are making your business an unpleasant place for decent folks to spend their money in, so you can ask the troublemakers to leave or we'll leave and not come back" could have worked wonders.

 

[mbriant]

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I suggest you try and tap people on the shoulder in Toronto and watch their reaction (I won't rule out violence).

I've lived in and around Toronto for 51 years and I've never thought of shoulder tapping as an insult or taboo practice. neither is it a common occurrence. IMO, people's reactions would vary greatly, depending on who exactly was doing the tapping.

 

[CMacDaddy]

Tapping someone on the shoulder without previously trying to get their attention could be considered rude.

Not in this case, or in most loud environments.

Imagine if you are in an airport lobby reading the paper, and someone just tapped your shoulder without an "excuse me" or other verbal comment. It would probably catch you off guard and shock you a bit. Maybe frighten you. Because of that slight discomfort, it is normally considered rude to tap someone on the shoulder without a verbal greeting.

Some people take being tapped on the shoulder as insult and react very negatively.


This is not some kind of regional thing. I'm suprised others have not heard of this.