[Exit Pupil]

it has to be that the HD650 has a veil. ohh how i've tried to find it, this veil they all talk about. just did the hearing thresholds through the hd650 at http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/hearing.html
from one of the other threads, and i'm pleased to report, from my ears, the 650 is sweet and pure through the mid to extreme top, ultimately extending further than the sometimes shrill mdr7506.

what is the origin of this myth?
is there another myth around here that can equal this?

 

[Elephas]

It's not a myth.

The HD650 has a distinctive sound that can be described as a "veil." There's some lack of details and resolution in the upper-midrange and treble area.

You either hear it or you don't. You won't hear it just listening to the HD650, you need to compare it with other headphones.

Associated gear such as sources, amps and cables may reduce the effect of this "veil" somewhat.

 

[grawk]

#1 headfi myth: That it's possible to know how something sounds based on something you read on headfi.

 

[Kanarie]

Cable burn-in.

 

[thrice]

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Originally Posted by grawk /img/forum/go_quote.gif #1 headfi myth: That it's possible to know how something sounds based on something you read on headfi.

ROFL

 

[steviebee]

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Originally Posted by grawk /img/forum/go_quote.gif #1 headfi myth: That it's possible to know how something sounds based on something you read on headfi.

ROFL x2!

 

[003]

Veil is not a myth. However, I have found that many other cans have a similar veil. Once you hear a headphone that distinctly does NOT have any such veil (best example I've heard -- K1000), and you listen to the HD650, the veil will come like a punch in the face.

 

[NiceCans]

#1 Head-Fi myth:

you can disguise a Senn Veil thread and get away with it

 

[billinkansas]

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Originally Posted by steviebee /img/forum/go_quote.gif ROFL x2!

ROFL - X3!

 

[forsberg]

Simple: Upgrading interconnects make a difference.

 

[Deiz]

That Skullcandy makes bad headphones. In actual fact, they're very good at their purpose.*

Their purpose, of course, being large, expensive paperweights.

 

[kramer5150]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exit Pupil /img/forum/go_quote.gif it has to be that the HD650 has a veil. ohh how i've tried to find it, this veil they all talk about. just did the hearing thresholds through the hd650 at http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/hearing.html from one of the other threads, and i'm pleased to report, from my ears, the 650 is sweet and pure through the mid to extreme top, ultimately extending further than the sometimes shrill mdr7506. what is the origin of this myth? is there another myth around here that can equal this?

senn veil = ~4db recession around 4-6khz

It may not be readily noticeable to you if these are your only/first headphones, or you are accustomed to stereo speakers. IMHO many "high end" speakers also have this characteristic. The designers do it intentionally because most people prefer to attenuate tones around the eardrums natural resonance. But spend some time with a headphone that does not exhibit this and the difference is night and day.

Biggest myth = IEMs do not benefit from amplification. If you pick an amp that COLORS the sound, it can dramatically alter the "enjoyment level" of an IEM. A low gain amp can DRAMATICALLY reduce hiss and noise.

 

[billinkansas]

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Originally Posted by NiceCans /img/forum/go_quote.gif #1 Head-Fi myth: you can disguise a Senn Veil thread and get away with it

Hey there, N.C.

I still have your old HD600's and I do use them from time to time. I've moved a fair bit into the world of Stax, but I still do enjoy the Sennheisers. They may be slightly "veiled" compared to some other cans, but the detail is all there and they don't beat my ears up.

Cheers!

 

[nickknutson]

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Originally Posted by Exit Pupil /img/forum/go_quote.gif it has to be that the HD650 has a veil. ohh how i've tried to find it, this veil they all talk about. just did the hearing thresholds through the hd650 at http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/hearing.html from one of the other threads, and i'm pleased to report, from my ears, the 650 is sweet and pure through the mid to extreme top, ultimately extending further than the sometimes shrill mdr7506. what is the origin of this myth? is there another myth around here that can equal this?

How long did it take for you come to this conclusion? Was it before, or after, you joined head-fi?

 

[iPatcH]

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Originally Posted by Deiz /img/forum/go_quote.gif That Skullcandy makes bad headphones. In actual fact, they're very good at their purpose.* Their purpose, of course, being large, expensive paperweights.

Exactly what I was going to say.