[padam]

Why not then use some advanced DSP to EQ a headphone to a normalized standard like the Harman curve? I use ROONs convolver and ORATORY1990’s for that for my Staxes and am quite happy with the results...

It is a curve made by someone else, I guess it may work for some people... Tested A-B with the gain lowered without EQ with the Lambda Pro (tried the ED-1 and Harman as well) and it clearly sounded worse to me. Same with the SR-009, didn't improve any of the things I wanted to improve on.
Not that surprised to be honest, only simple and gentle EQ works for me in some cases to lower high-frequency noise, etc. the more applied, the more it shows.
The Smyth Realiser also works (especially for movies) because it takes individual attributes into account. But for music, not quite the same as without it.

 

[dynavit]

I also think that 009S is more like HD800S. A refinement of an existing flagship product.

For some of us X9000 could be the last Stax flagship launch that we’ll ever see.

Funny thing is, that those „refinements“ don`t have to be a real step further on.
Look here: https://www.open-end-music.com/foru...ker-800serie-im-rueckblick-am-paltauf-hpa-100

 

[NOMOS]

Today I looked at measurements of the SR Omega compared
to Stax 009 and Senn HE90 .One thing I'm almost sure. We
can get up a fantastic Bass of the new SR 9000 is looking forward to ,
if Stax maintains the Bass strength of the Omega .

 

[lsantista]

what measurements did you use to compare? I know the more popular sites for this, but no idea what is the most accurate of them for eletrostats in general

 

[dynavit]

Today I looked at measurements of the SR Omega compared
to Stax 009 and Senn HE90 .One thing I'm almost sure. We
can get up a fantastic Bass of the new SR 9000 is looking forward to ,
if Stax maintains the Bass strength of the Omega .

20% plus surface should make a difference in (especially deep-)bass performance. Let`s see how the rest performs.

 

[NOMOS]

Yes , I am also very interested in the first audio Reports and Measurements .
The X9000 is the most interesting Headphones for me personally this year

 

[NOMOS]

what measurements did you use to compare? I know the more popular sites for this, but no idea what is the most accurate of them for eletrostats in general

Hallo Isantista .

https://www.superbestaudiofriends.o...ket-for-stax-galaxy-the-stax-compendium.1976/

Audiophile Greetings , Nomos

 

[dynavit]

Many thanks for this link! Didn`t know this one. I allways was looking here: https://www.inexxon.com/stax-modelle/stax-kopfhörer/

These are the elektrostats I own: Stax 009, 007 mk1, 4070, 507, SR 404 LE, 404, 300LE, Nova Signature, Signature, Lambda Pro, Sigma Pro, Lambda Normal, SR-5 Gold, SRX Mark 3, SR-3, Dan Clark VOCE, Sennheiser HE60;

So this is why I am interested in measurments and opinions of other people especially the older models.

 

[Mach3]

Yeah the SR-Ω don't like bass eq. It overloads if you bump the bass up and overdrive them/ loud volume, due to the sheer size of the stator (not rigid enough). The rest was great, silky smooth neutral and pretty much most speaker like ear speaker. Hopefully Stax address the short fall with the new tech used to make the X9000 and keep all the good stuff SR-Ω. Then it would be a absolute stellar of flagship.

 

[elton7033]

tiiiiny market and high r&d budget to come up with something that really better than their previous offerings.
Just because Edifier think of them as a cute pet project now, doesn’t mean that they get an unlimited budget to develop their next flagship product.
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unless they go hifiman.

This all depends on the up coming X9000 sells isnt it, but looking at this forume we can see a lot of potential buyer and thanks for more dealer around the world, we can see Stax flagship price aint rocketing skyhigh like when the 009 first launch.

 

[lsantista]

Hi Elton, you just made me curious to see the price of SR009 at its release in early 2011. I wasn't into the hi-fi world back then although already a stax fan.
So it cost US$5250 then; it turns out that simply adjusting for inflation you get... $6355 tp $6427 depending on the exact month you choose (below). One could argue adjusting electronics for CPI is not the best approach as they tend to get cheaper over time. Indeed that may be the case, although the fact many of us have been complainning of how TOTL prices have gone up lately should at least put that assumption into question). But the purchasing power required to get you their new flagship (to be sure, now Im talking X9000) is nonetheless about the same (even a little less) than that of 10 years ago.

source: bls.gov
for 009 price at launch:
https://headfonics.com/the-ultimate-stax-is-out-the-sr-009/

 

[lsantista]

Back then in 2011-12, the 007-mkII cost $2650. so a new pair went down about 20% in price in 10 years, whereas the 009, about 30%. It also goes to show what a bargain a used 009 is at half its original price from just a decade ago

 

[tumpux]

It’s hard to gauge potential sales from enthusiasm level on forum like this. It’s more like an echo chamber where everything is amplified.

Not everyone that posts here everyday has enough fund to buy the X9000 at the launch period. Some of the ones who got the fund will wait for favorable reviews and comparisons from esteemed figures such as the baker. Some will wait for X9000 to appear on the secondary market. Some will wait for the price drop. Some will go for auditions and decided that it is not four times better than 007.

I dont say that X9000 will fail, I really want it to be a hit so we will see more in the future but if we look at the r&d budget that they have to spend to develop X9000 and the potential sales of X9000, for a small company such as Stax the possibility to develop another flagship product without financial backing would be small.

Even if we see X9000 as the flagship product that will bring halo effect to the rest of their product line, I dont see any enthusiasm (at least on this forum) for Stax’s more affordable line. At least for the current offering. But who knows, maybe they have something new to offer later.

 

[catscratch]

It's hard to be enthusiastic about a $6200 headphone most will never afford, from a company with a recent track record of releasing obsolescent designs at increasingly bloated prices. And the loss of enthusiasm isn't recent. When you release the T8000 at $6k, then re-release the 007t and 717 at $3400... yeah, the enthusiasm disappeared a while ago.

But who knows, maybe this will be great. Put me in the "wait and see" column, with a healthy sprinkling of skepticism.

 

[elton7033]

Back then in 2011-12, the 007-mkII cost $2650. so a new pair went down about 20% in price in 10 years, whereas the 009, about 30%. It also goes to show what a bargain a used 009 is at half its original price from just a decade ago

I totally agree on its sad to open a post and try to sell my 009 at half of its msrp but again I am one of those who cannot afford the full 6200usd price for the sr-x900 under Covid.
The 007mk1 actually retain value much better than 009 which is sort of miracle.