The Reference 6SN7 Thread

Jan 21, 2025 at 3:32 PM Post #10,430 of 10,650
Jan 21, 2025 at 4:28 PM Post #10,431 of 10,650
I mean, there are so many variables with respect to printing. Location (on glass vs base), base composition, different inks from different manufacturers and how well they stick or break down over time, temp and humidity the tubes were stored at... you get the picture. Hopefully someone with experience with Brimar of that era can advise, that would be best. It's also likely that a seller of true NOS found them cruddy looking inside the box and gave it a light cleaning so they look more presentable. Did they wipe lightly over the printing with a water or alcohol dampened cloth hoping to brighten them, only to have the white paint pick up a tint? In general the printing on the glass tends to be fragile and even with true NOS, never out of the box, removing them from the box can produce enough friction to damage the paint. Too many factors I would say, and only one data point in determining true NOS vs testing like NOS.

Incidentally, while not an endorsement per se, I have purchased a pair of tubes from BULLzTUBEz in the past which were advertised as true NOS. After examining closely and testing them I am inclined to believe they were as advertised.

Cheers,
Robert
 
Jan 21, 2025 at 8:01 PM Post #10,432 of 10,650
Jan 22, 2025 at 7:37 PM Post #10,433 of 10,650
I have tried searching through this thread for a good answer - and maybe I just missed it - but I’m looking for a 6SN7 Tube that offers decent performance and wondering what the options might be for a price point between $50-$100 per Tube. Are there any worth looking at under $50? Lots of the options that I see on Tube Depot are $100+.
Suggestions or Feedback of Experiences with Tubes on the more budget end of the range would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
 
Jan 22, 2025 at 7:42 PM Post #10,434 of 10,650
I have tried searching through this thread for a good answer - and maybe I just missed it - but I’m looking for a 6SN7 Tube that offers decent performance and wondering what the options might be for a price point between $50-$100 per Tube. Are there any worth looking at under $50? Lots of the options that I see on Tube Depot are $100+.
Suggestions or Feedback of Experiences with Tubes on the more budget end of the range would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Yes, definitely- here is one - Sylvania 6SN7GT with parallel T-Plates (not the angled plates). You can usually find them for decent prices like the one linked below - one of my favorites in the 6SN7 lineup.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/375938093161
 
Jan 22, 2025 at 7:48 PM Post #10,435 of 10,650
And not to be a contrarian, but I personally think the Sylvania 6SN7GT with angled T-plates is every bit as good as the parallel T-plates. I've got numerous of both and honestly am not sure I note any difference. If I were looking to keep a lid on the budget I would jump on the angled plates.

Cheers,
Robert
 
Jan 22, 2025 at 9:59 PM Post #10,436 of 10,650
And not to be a contrarian, but I personally think the Sylvania 6SN7GT with angled T-plates is every bit as good as the parallel T-plates. I've got numerous of both and honestly am not sure I note any difference. If I were looking to keep a lid on the budget I would jump on the angled plates.

Cheers,
Robert
I prefer the parallel plates but either version is a quality tube. Except the blue labeled Philips ones. Those are notorious for being pretty bad. You can also get good deals on the 6sn7gtb versions from the different manufacturers. Both RCA and Sylvania made good ones.
 
Jan 22, 2025 at 11:43 PM Post #10,437 of 10,650
I have tried searching through this thread for a good answer - and maybe I just missed it - but I’m looking for a 6SN7 Tube that offers decent performance and wondering what the options might be for a price point between $50-$100 per Tube. Are there any worth looking at under $50? Lots of the options that I see on Tube Depot are $100+.
Suggestions or Feedback of Experiences with Tubes on the more budget end of the range would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
All great suggestions above.

An underrated 6SN7 is the CBS/Hytron - within your budget such as: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116444095525

CBS/Hytron 6SN7WGTA is another option.

Great sounding, great value, imo, is the Sylvi 6SN7WGTA: https://www.ebay.com/itm/305911759244

And Sylvi VT-231s are another great tube and great value if you shop around the bay....

Oh... and the Raytheons: https://www.ebay.com/itm/375643344982

And Tungsol staggered plate 6SN7: https://www.ebay.com/itm/176550266874

The thing about 6SN7s is that millions and millions were made. Not suggesting you must collect them all, but a few hundred is a good start, eh, @WildPhydeaux :ksc75smile:
 
Jan 23, 2025 at 12:35 PM Post #10,438 of 10,650
Raytheon 6SN7’s are great and still able to be found at somewhat reasonable prices. I purchased these last year and they’re one of my favorites!

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Jan 23, 2025 at 1:10 PM Post #10,439 of 10,650
I'm still pretty new to tubes and this thread has been immensely helpful to me. Finding a good seller on eBay can be a little tricky early on. I've had excellent luck with this seller,

BULLzTUBEz
I always buy matched pairs from him. The brown base Raytheon's are a little more expensive but are the best sounding ones for my system that I've been able to afford.
 
Jan 23, 2025 at 1:26 PM Post #10,440 of 10,650
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2670798728...JA8XMS&hash=item3e2f337170:g:4XwAAOSwtbtnSJsa

Seems like bullztubes has reached new lows. Useally he sells used tubes and measures them as "NOS". You can visually see that these tubes have been removed from equipment. They are full of blemishes or patina.
This time he even added a fake packaging to his used pair of tubes. There is a reason why he doesnt show the designation at the top of these boxes. The boxes look fantastically stored for 70 year old cardboard boxes. Chapeu.

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This is how original Sylvania boxes would look like.
These days I see more and more eBay sellers with fake boxes.
 
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