The Reference 6SN7 Thread
May 31, 2020 at 12:16 PM Post #1,802 of 10,006
LOL! Good one!

He is, but he has not told his employer yet. 😀
 
May 31, 2020 at 7:46 PM Post #1,804 of 10,006
I wondered if he listens to music while standing on his head. Sorry if I misinterpreted his desires.

I have no desires. Only stupid ideas. But on the plus side, I have lots of them. :)
 
May 31, 2020 at 7:47 PM Post #1,805 of 10,006
May 31, 2020 at 7:54 PM Post #1,806 of 10,006
Has he re-tired?

LOL! I might be tomorrow morning after my boss sees my month-end numbers for May. At minimum, I'll be stopping by a re-tail store...
 
May 31, 2020 at 9:24 PM Post #1,807 of 10,006
Many? Most?
Listening to Art Pepper meets the rhythm section album.... The twin 6j5's I am running are working wonders, Sylvania ST's. Each channel is perfect, no cross talk. I own a lot of tubes but right now I am hard pressed to change these out. I feel every draw of the bow across a stand up bass.
 
Jun 4, 2020 at 12:57 AM Post #1,808 of 10,006
Jun 6, 2020 at 12:06 PM Post #1,809 of 10,006
So I"m really digging the described " a touch euphonic " sound of the JAN National Union tube, question is (and not that I have the monies for it) would a Brimar CV1988 be a nice upgrade over the NU, or are they similar in sound character?
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Jun 6, 2020 at 3:03 PM Post #1,810 of 10,006
So I"m really digging the described " a touch euphonic " sound of the JAN National Union tube, question is (and not that I have the monies for it) would a Brimar CV1988 be a nice upgrade over the NU, or are they similar in sound character?
I can't compare directly to answer your question but I have a Brimar 6SN7GT which is definitely euphonic: warm'ish, sweet mids and the instrument placement / layering is exceptional. What it lacks are that last bit of frequency extesnion and detail retrieval, but I think that's an expected trade-off for its euphonic character.
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Jun 6, 2020 at 8:58 PM Post #1,811 of 10,006
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2 x MELZ 6N8S 6SN7 Metal Base Tubes | eBay


I got delivery of this 6n8s Melz tube made in 1953 about 3 hours ago.

It took six weeks of wait from Ukraine.

But it is worth the wait.

This is the most exciting 6sn7 tube that I had tried in my Line Magnetic 508 amp.

it sounds very dynamic with excellent details, wide and deep soundstage.

Compared with famed 1578 Melz ( I have two pairs made in 80 and one pair made in 83), 1578 give slightly more bass slam, even wider and deeper soundstage.

While 1578 has clean treble, it sound rather closed in and bass heavy, but this 68ns Melz tube made in 1953 give more lively treble and more details although its treble has slightly hard edge compared with 1578.

I am playing old rock. It seems that they are playing in front of me.

It is going to be interesting if I can compare this with Sylvania wgt metal base.

I have Sylvania wgt brown base which sounds similar to this 6n8s but 6sn8s give more dynamic sound.


This is a steal at 65$ including shipping for pair which cost one quarter of 1578.

I place an order of two more pairs of this.
 
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Jun 6, 2020 at 9:37 PM Post #1,812 of 10,006
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2 x MELZ 6N8S 6SN7 Metal Base Tubes | eBay


I got delivery of this 6n8s Melz tube made in 1953 about 3 hours ago.

It took six weeks of wait from Ukraine.

But it is worth the wait.

This is the most exciting 6sn7 tube that I had tried in my Line Magnetic 508 amp.

it sounds very dynamic with excellent details, wide and deep soundstage.

Compared with famed 1578 Melz ( I have two pairs made in 80 and one pair made in 83), 1578 give slightly more bass slam, even wider and deeper soundstage.

While 1578 has clean treble, it sound rather closed in and bass heavy, but this 68ns Melz tube made in 1953 give more lively treble and more details although its treble has slightly hard edge compared with 1578.

I am playing old rock. It seems that they are playing in front of me.

It is going to be interesting if I can compare this with Sylvania wgt metal base.

I have Sylvania wgt brown base which sounds similar to this 6n8s but 6sn8s give more dynamic sound.


This is a steal at 65$ including shipping for pair which cost one quarter of 1578.

I place an order of two more pairs of this.
6 weeks ouch, think I got my Melz from the same guy. ok, 4 weeks to go then.
 
Jun 7, 2020 at 1:15 PM Post #1,813 of 10,006
After 10 hours of listening to 6n8s made in 53, I am more impressed with it.

It sounds dynamic with nice air and details.

I am listening to "Hero" by Mariah Carey.

It sounds so delicious and nuanced through this tube that I am just happy.

It is kind of midway between 1578 and TS bgrp.

All Russian tubes that I had tried have better bass than even Kenrad vt231 which used to be called bass king of 6sn7.


The only drawback of this tube is it has some high frequency noise as well as 1578.

I had to try re soldering pins.someday.
 
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Jun 7, 2020 at 3:42 PM Post #1,814 of 10,006
After 10 hours of listening to 6n8s made in 53, I am more impressed with it.

It sounds dynamic with nice air and details.

I am listening to "Hero" by Mariah Carey.

It sounds so delicious and nuanced through this tube that I am just happy.

It is kind of midway between 1578 and TS bgrp.

All Russian tubes that I had tried have better bass than even Kenrad vt231 which used to be called bass king of 6sn7.


The only drawback of this tube is it has some high frequency noise as well as 1578.

I had to try re soldering pins.someday.

I think it is wonderful that you rate it between the tubes mentioned, you can save a lot of money since you are rating a what $12 tube above either the 1578 or TS bgrp, um except for the high frequency noise. My experience with that type of tube is that it is not helped much by re-soldering the pins. I do believe I sent one to @bcowen in our 6sn7 equivalent challenge and he rated it worse than a GE but each to their own I guess. :) The one I sent had two of the three features of a 1578 even lol.
 
Jun 7, 2020 at 3:45 PM Post #1,815 of 10,006
This is the Melz I sent, 1956.93082C4B-B164-445D-9AB7-B23D772B762C.jpeg

I will have to give it a second listen. I removed it and the GE from the batch I sent Jason at Schiit as well as an Electro Harmonix that was also rated pretty low. The 56 Melz has the same ribbed plates as the 53, no holes in the plates.

I just popped it for another listen, there is indeed some noise in high frequencies, bass is ok, mids are nothing near what the 1578 is capable of. Bill found it to be torture to listen to it much and I get it now.
 
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