[AnalogEuphoria]

These headphones are very revealing to the source, I wouldn't be surprised if people decided they didn't like them unknowingly because of how their gear sounded. All sources I have tried so far changed the sound in a pretty dramatic way like I haven't heard before.

 

[gargani]

These headphones are very revealing to the source, I wouldn't be surprised if people decided they didn't like them unknowingly because of how their gear sounded. All sources I have tried so far changed the sound in a pretty dramatic way like I haven't heard before.

Don't forget the recording. The mixing, mastering and overall production of various recordings is all over the map.
I think that will affect what one hears more than the gear.

 

[Rozzko]

Hello
I thinking of new headphones for games/movies and music.

Maybe someone tell me difference between these headphones. Because it’s my short list.
-Hd650s
-pc38x
-fidelio x2HR

 

[volly]

Hello
I thinking of new headphones for games/movies and music.

Maybe someone tell me difference between these headphones. Because it’s my short list.
-Hd650s
-pc38x
-fidelio x2HR

All these headphones do well with games/movies and music, do you have a stand alone Microphone? And do you need/want an open or closed set?

What's games do you play, CSGO, Apex, Warzone or more single player games? And what is your budget my friend?

One more to add to your list, Epos H6 Pro, they come in open and closed variants! Detachable microphone and the sound was collaborated with Epos and Sennheiser (similar to PC38x).

Out of the ones you've listed, I would go the HD560s all day long!

 

[Luigi Milazzo]

finally I've purchased a good hd560s, at the third attempt. the new fantasia balanced cable is arriving, and a hidzs s9 pro as well.I hope that the new fiio LT-LT1 usb-c to lightning cable will transfer the audio flawlessly as fiio product ever did. will that combo be good?

 

[theMUKe]

finally I've purchased a good hd560s, at the third attempt. the new fantasia balanced cable is arriving, and a hidzs s9 pro as well.I hope that the new fiio LT-LT1 usb-c to lightning cable will transfer the audio flawlessly as fiio product ever did. will that combo be good?

Definitely good components you are using! And running the HD560S balanced is definitely a good idea. Also the S9 Pro has enough driving power for them.

Just hope it will match together and not be too bright. I know that the HD560s are ideally driven on a slightly darker, possibly even smoother, source. Several people report good results for tube amps.

The Hidizs sound is usually pretty good, and it’s usually very neutral. I don’t know the S9 Pro, though. Would have to read reviews on sound quality. Hopefully it leans towards the warmer side.

On hint straightaway: give the HD560s some hours of burn-in. In my case treble was pretty harsh at first.

 

[Luigi Milazzo]

Definitely good components you are using! And running the HD560S balanced is definitely a good idea. Also the S9 Pro has enough driving power for them.

Just hope it will match together and not be too bright. I know that the HD560s are ideally driven on a slightly darker, possibly even smoother, source. Several people report good results for tube amps.

The Hidizs sound is usually pretty good, and it’s usually very neutral. I don’t know the S9 Pro, though. Would have to read reviews on sound quality. Hopefully it leans towards the warmer side.

On hint straightaway: give the HD560s some hours of burn-in. In my case treble was pretty harsh at first.

coming from the ATH-R70X and HD600, I'm pretty happy with the treble of the hd560s. The only hp that's unbearable for me in that regard is the dt1990. The s9 pro is the most accurate dongle in the market. even if it'll be not so warm, I will be pretty happy. These headphones are a dream come true. A cheap, tonally correct model with good technicalities, almost an impossible mission. after 136 models owned, these are the sweet spot.

1-Shure E2C 3/5
2-Sony MDREP50 2/5
3-Sony MDREX700 2,5/5
4-Sennheiser CX300 II 2/5
5-Sennheiser HD380 PRO 3,5/5
6-Sennheiser IE7 4,5/5
7-Sennheiser IE8 3,5/5
8-Yamaha EPH100 4/5
9-Shure SE215 3/5
10-Rha MA450i 2,5/5
11-Rha MA750i 4/5
12-Creative Cal! 4/5
13-Akg K271 mkII 3/5
14-Audio Technica ATHM50s 3,5/5
15-Akg K167 Tiesto 4/5
16-Rha CA200 2/5
17-Meliconi HP100 1,5/5
18-Beats Pro 2/5
19-Akg K550 4/5
20-Sony MDR1R 3,5/5
21-Pioneer SEA1000 3/5
22-Ultimate Ears UE6000 3,5/5
23-Shure Srh940 4,5/5
24-Sennheiser HD25 alu 4/5
25-AKG K81dj 3/5
26-AKG K518dj 3,5/5
27-AKG K545 4/5
28-Sennheiser CX3.00 2,5/5
29-Sony MDR-EX650ap 2/5
30-TDK ST-750 2,5/5
31-Shure SE425 4/5
32-Sony MDR-100AAP h.ear on 4/5
33-Sony XBA-C10 2,5/5
34-Hifiman RE400 4/5
35-Skullcandy Crusher 3/5
36-Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 oe 2/5
37-Philips Fidelio M1 mkII 4/5
38-VE Monk plus 3/5
39-Sennheiser HD598SE 4/5
40-Audio Technica ATH-CKS550i 3/5
41-Akg Y50 3/5
42-Marshall Mid Bluetooth 3/5
43-Philips Fidelio S2 4/5
44-Brainwavz B100 4,5/5
45-Marshall Mode 3,5/5
46-Audio Technica ATH-E40 3,5/5
47-AKG K712 Pro 4,5/5
48-Koss KSC75 4/5
49-Sony MDR-EX110 3/5
50-Akg K518 LE 3,5/5
51-Sony MDR-EX110ap 2,5/5
52-Marshall Mode EQ 3,5/5
53-Beyerdynamic DTX350M 3/5
54-Marshall Monitor Bluetooth 3/5
55-Akg K845BT 4/5
56-Yamaha HPH-PRO500 3,5/5
57-Koss KPH30i 4/5
58-Yamaha HPH-MT8 4/5
59-Koss PortaPro 3,5/5
60-Koss PortaPro X 3,5/5
61-JVC HA-S160 Flats 3/5
62-Philips SHL3505 Fixie 2,5/5
63-Fiio FH1 2,5/5
64-Brainwavz B200 2/5
65-MeeAudio Pinnacle P1 4/5
66-Sony MDR-1AM2 Black 4/5
67-Sennheiser HD58X Jubilee 3/5
68-Koss KSC75 X 4/5
69-Beyerdynamic DT880 Pro 250 Ohm 4/5
70-VE Monk plus mic 3,5/5
71-Audio Technica ATH-M40X 3/5
72-Audio Technica ATH-M40X DEKONI sheep 3,5/5
73-Sennheiser Momentum 2.0i AE 3,5/5
74-Fiio FA1 4/5
75-AKG K612 PRO 4/5
76-Philips SHL3565 3/5
77-Pioneer HRM6 3/5
78-Audio Technica ATH-M50X blue 3/5
79-Beyerdynamic DT770PRO 32 Ohm 4/5
80-Marshall Major III 3,5/5
81-Sennheiser HD300 3,5/5
82-Panasonic RP-HTX80b 1/5
83-Sennheiser HD4.40 BT 3,5/5
84-Sennheiser HD599SE 4/5
85-Pioneer SE-MS7BT 2/5
86-Alessandro MS1 3,5/5
87-Sony WH-H900n h.ear on 2 2,5/5
88-Sony MDR-7506 3/5
89-Beyerdynamic DT770PRO 80 Ohm 4/5
90-Marshall Minor II BT 4/5
91-AKG K371 4,5/5
92-AKG K245 3,5/5
93-AKG K240MKII 4/5
94-Beyerdynamic DT990PRO 250 Ohm 2,5/5
95-Beyerdynamic DT880PRO 250 Ohm 4,5/5
96-Sennheiser HD2.10/HD100 4/5
97-Sony MDR-1AM2 Silver 4/5
98-Brainwavz Koel 4/5
99-Apple AirPods Pro 4,5/5
100-Creative Aurvana SE 4,5/5
101-Tin HiFi T4 4,5/5
102-Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO 32 Ohm 4/5
103-Philips SHP9500 4/5
104-Koss KSC75 Yaxi Pads and Porta Pro's headband 4,5/5
105-Koss Porta Pro 4/5
106-AKG K712 PRO Slovakia 2020 (Defective)
107-Sennheiser HD6XX balanced 4/5
108-AKG K361 3,5/5
109-AKG K371 4,5/5
110-Apple Earpods 3/5
111-Sennheiser HD380 PRO 3/5
112-Sennheiser HD25 Basic Edition ‘20 3/5
113-Sennheiser HD600 2019 4,5/5
114-Sennheiser HD25 <2019 3,5/5
115-AKG K275 3,5/5
116-Beats Solo Pro 3,5/5
117-Moondrop Starfield 4,5/5
118-Sony MH-755 4/5
119-Sennheiser HD206 2/5
120-Philips Fidelio X2HR 3,5/5
121-Beyerdynamic dt770 80 Ohm rodata 4,5/5
122-Moondrop Aria 2 4,5/5
123-Sony MDR-7510 4/5
124-Sennheiser HD560S 4/5 (dective
125-Beyerdynamic DT880 Edition 250 Ohm 4/5
126-Beyerdynamic DT1990 PRO 4,5/5
127-Audio Technica ATH-M50X Sheep Pad 3,5/5
128-Sennheiser HD25 Copper Cable 4/5
129-Sennheiser IE40 PRO 2,5/5
130-AKG K702 4/5
131-AKG K702 memory 4,5/5
132-Hifiman Sundara 4,5/5 (defective)
133-AKG K371 revision 4,5/5
134-Audio Technica ATH-R70X 4,5/5
135-Moondrop Blessing 2 5/5
136-Sennheiser HD560S 5/5

I'm done. I don't like the more expensive sub 1000 euro costing models I tried at the shops around the world, and I can't spend more than 500. so for me it is an happy ending
I had some very powerful amplifier, but the difference with the s9 pro or even a fiio btr5 in balanced mode is too little with headphone so easy to drive.

 

[Evshrug]

Personally, these are my favourite setup for my HD560s...

Super transparency of the Sp200 coupled with some old Vintage Theta DAC's......HEAVEN!

@Evshrug -Can ya ask Sennheiser if they have any more goodies in the works, a long the lines of a closed-back version of the HD560s?! - Remember the old HD630VB?

Forgot to “post” my reply. Basically, I could ask, but I wouldn’t be able to tell you And when I do find out about models coming in advance, it’s torture because I have to wait a long time… and some things had a general release month but were delayed due to Covid (like the IE 300 and IE 900)! So, insider knowledge is a blessing but also a curse.

Also… nice audio stacks, that’s some serious gear! I used to own a Theta DAC myself, it was awesome but only had Coax input. Eventually, I sold it because my computer, game console, streamer (TV and movies), tablet, and smartphone all used optical or USB outputs, and my Raspberry Pi just wasn’t enough to be a bridge for all those sources.

 

[Riversalt]

New HD400 PRO 250usd

 

[SchwizzelKick66]

New HD400 PRO 250usd

It's apparently exactly the same as the 560s, just slightly different aesthetic and a coiled cable. Sort of a weird model.

I got excited at first and thought it was a closed back 560s equivalent

 

[volly]

New HD400 PRO 250usd

Looks to be a rival to the new Beyerdynamic Pro Line, I'm excited...thanks for sharing this!

Personally love the studio coiled cable, hopefully they sell the cable separately!

 

[Evshrug]

New HD400 PRO 250usd

This is one of those things where I don’t know what to say, lol! But yeah, it looks like they went for a completely black aesthetic and coiled cable.

I still use my HD 560S from time to time, I enjoy how “flat” and balanced the signature is. Not a bad choice for WFH mixing music.

 

[alecsus27]

Hello,

I am considering to buy these phones. I will mostly use them for classical music listening. For now, I only have a Dell Inspiron 15 3000 series laptop, so amplification is mediocre at best. I will have to postpone buying a dedicated amp.

My question is: adding an amp to these will indeed greatly benefit the perceived sound quality, or only "sort of"? Notice that I don't listen too loud, so volume is not an issue.

I am aware that I may appear as a totally novice in the field of headphone (amplification), and it's quite true: I only listened 3-4 years ago to a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro for about 15 minutes, and that concludes my audiophile headphone listening experience (other than that I had a pair of Sennheiser PC-350, but that was obviously only for video games).

Thank you.

 

[Evshrug]

Hey alecsus,
The HD 560S is an evolution and improvement on your old PC350, minus the mic and with a more “reference” tuning that balances lows, mids, and high pitched sounds to mostly equal prominence (many mainstream products emphasize lows and highs, and so does the DT 770, this headphone may seem a bit different to you). If you found the PC350 physically comfortable, the HD 560S will feel like a refinement of familiar ergonomics.

For amping, the HD 560S should give you about the maximum possible quality you can get directly out of your laptops headphone jack. Headphone has very high sensitivity, so you won’t have volume issues, and the moderate ohm impedance of the Headphone means that it will resist some background hiss and dampening issues. However, a laptop does leave a little bit to be desired when it comes to performance… just like an integrated graphics card vs a discrete graphics card. The audio parts on your laptop may have cost the manufacturer less than a dollar, and even an Apple dongle for a smart phone will probably sound better. The HD 560 S would scale up with higher quality amps to have a better sense of depth and separation of distance, better clarity, tighter bass, and you might find other qualities that make the sound more “musical” and fun. Of course, there are other features like spatial audio and headphone surround processing that you can add to bring the sound to be more “speaker-like” or true to life.

I think you would happily enjoy them straight out of your laptop, but just FYI I also enjoy using them with my turntable and $799 amp (it’s not the ONLY headphone I use with that amp, and I also use it with speakers, but I hope you understand what I mean when I say the headphone still has an appeal even in a higher end system).

 

[phthora]

Hello,

I am considering to buy these phones. I will mostly use them for classical music listening. For now, I only have a Dell Inspiron 15 3000 series laptop, so amplification is mediocre at best. I will have to postpone buying a dedicated amp.

My question is: adding an amp to these will indeed greatly benefit the perceived sound quality, or only "sort of"? Notice that I don't listen too loud, so volume is not an issue.

I am aware that I may appear as a totally novice in the field of headphone (amplification), and it's quite true: I only listened 3-4 years ago to a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro for about 15 minutes, and that concludes my audiophile headphone listening experience (other than that I had a pair of Sennheiser PC-350, but that was obviously only for video games).

Thank you.

A friend of mine has the 560S paired with an iFi Zen and they're fantastic. For the price, I'm convinced there is no more capable combination, especially if you are after a neutral tuning. As a first pair of headphones, that's absolutely ideal as it will help you determine where you like a little more or a little less presence in the frequency response. And, the Zen has a lovely bass boost that gives that extra oomph in times of need.

A better amp can help, but it's more about the cleanliness of the signal than the amount of power on tap. The 560S does scale some, but you won't need to spend much to get the most out of them. They are not difficult to power or match with an amp, nor will they deliver the resolution and clarity of something like an 800S. However, they do give you a good taste of that 800S flavor.