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Jun 1, 2018 at 4:42 AM Post #166 of 521
The 900st has so many custom options/ mod options in Japan both in terms of aesthetics and performance.

Hifiguy528 also recommends them over the its 2 other Sony Brothers.

I would love to grab these and play with them :D
1.Titanium pvd
2.backwave damping
3. Yaxi alcantara pads


These are performance upgrade available in Japan by Sony itself and is done till now.


Aesthetic is only 4 pin mini xlr as per I know
 
Jun 1, 2018 at 4:52 AM Post #167 of 521
1.Titanium pvd
2.backwave damping
3. Yaxi alcantara pads


These are performance upgrade available in Japan by Sony itself and is done till now.


Aesthetic is only 4 pin mini xlr as per I know

I remember stumbling on some Japanese forums/websites a while back and they had places that would do custom paint jobs and tuning also.

How they tuned I don't remember the specifics.

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I dont know if the colors matter so much as the passion people have for them in Japan.

In saying that I have seen reviews on youtube, where Japanese reviewers enjoyed the 7506 more.

So maybe a grass is greener on the otherside thing.

I hope to be able to do my own comparing on the 3 one day. :D
 
Jun 1, 2018 at 5:03 AM Post #168 of 521
There is this lost headphone called Sony MDR v9 prototype.

It was a bio celloluse with pvd Beryllium

And only 3 were made...

Yup, japanese love colour

Nihon no ai no iro


And wood...



Well this is a mod thread, get the specific modding they have done.... Or give me the link
 
Jun 1, 2018 at 7:24 AM Post #169 of 521
There is this lost headphone called Sony MDR v9 prototype.

It was a bio celloluse with pvd Beryllium

And only 3 were made...

Yup, japanese love colour

Nihon no ai no iro


And wood...



Well this is a mod thread, get the specific modding they have done.... Or give me the link


That is crazyyy. do you have any more info or pics of this?

I'm sure if they didn't continue, it could be due to cost or it just didn't work out. Biocellulose and Beryllium PVD, that just sounds... too good .

Regarding the 900st, much of it was in Japanese forums, and I'm not sure how much i can get back to. I used google translate to translate each post, and see if there was anything of significance.

One website I remember visiting was

http://www.cartonode.com/

they do custom 900st. It's in Japanese, so i'm not sure how far they go, but seems they have a few options.
 
Jun 1, 2018 at 8:44 AM Post #170 of 521
That is crazyyy. do you have any more info or pics of this?

I'm sure if they didn't continue, it could be due to cost or it just didn't work out. Biocellulose and Beryllium PVD, that just sounds... too good .

Regarding the 900st, much of it was in Japanese forums, and I'm not sure how much i can get back to. I used google translate to translate each post, and see if there was anything of significance.

One website I remember visiting was

http://www.cartonode.com/

they do custom 900st. It's in Japanese, so i'm not sure how far they go, but seems they have a few options.
Not many option per se on website.

2. Sony discontinued all the best model just because they were not paying them up. 7506 started getting its respect in 2010(if we talk reality, when internet really boomed and we saw new google and YouTube).

Those all super models were discontinued back in 1998.

And Sony started favouring consumer market more and broke contacts with Sony music entertainment for reference testing.


Well I am thinking of mods..... if I am able to get theile parameters for the driver, I can make it a legend.

And I am working on a proprietary damping scheme like ETL, which would be easier to diy, more compatible and some simple material.


And yup you can tune 7506 any way you like(remove the whole paper resistance from the back of the driver and enjoy beats like sound)
 
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Jun 1, 2018 at 8:52 AM Post #171 of 521
Not many option per se on website.

2. Sony discontinued all the best model just because they were not paying them up. 7506 started getting its respect in 2010(if we talk reality, when internet really boomed and we saw new google and YouTube).

Those all super models were discontinued back in 1998.

And Sony started favouring consumer market more and broke contacts with Sony music entertainment for reference testing.


Well I am thinking of mods..... if I am able to get theile parameters for the driver, I can make it a legend.

And I am working on a proprietary damping scheme like ETL, which would be easier to diy, more compatible and some simple material.


And yup you can tune 7506 any way you like(remove the whole paper resistance from the back of the driver and enjoy beats like sound)

That is interesting. Honestly Sony has always been a mixed bag for me, they made some of my absolute favorite headphones, but they also have a lot of junk floating around.

Always wanted to listen to the CD900ST though.
 
Jun 1, 2018 at 9:34 AM Post #172 of 521
That is interesting. Honestly Sony has always been a mixed bag for me, they made some of my absolute favorite headphones, but they also have a lot of junk floating around.

Always wanted to listen to the CD900ST though.

Sony is mixed bag with diamonds lying in piece of coal mine.

Plus shining from our side makes those diamond glitter.

All the old Sony are good.

Even xb1000 was great from extra bass line.

CD900st is what when you take 7506, compensate its lower end roll off and dampen its peak.

Not to m50x level bass but it is significant. Treble is more in control but still peaky.


7506- in studio recording standard(vocal and instrument focus)
CD900st- digital conversion for music producer( for studio listening, mixing and bass information)

V6- something in between, Sony wanted both performance

V7- inspiration for v6, it was more bassy for mentioning bass fault in older hardware, Sony thought that after v6 release, v7 is actually not needed for production...even if it is superior.

So they made cd900st and discontinued v7.

V8, V9 were limited release showing Sony technological feat back in 1980's.

V7 was derived from that.

V700DJ is new v7 with SubBass boosted and more controlled treble, but sound closed in and not spacious.


There was v10, only one in the world...released with Sony r10..


Sony r10- audiophile
Sony v10- for legendary monitoring.

There was Sony open back which looked like HD800, open back model but was too much treble and was discontinued

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones...w_of_the_cd900st_cartonode_engineering_mod_a/


CD900st cartonode mod... Review
 
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Jun 1, 2018 at 9:59 AM Post #173 of 521
Sony is mixed bag with diamonds lying in piece of coal mine.

Plus shining from our side makes those diamond glitter.

All the old Sony are good.

Even xb1000 was great from extra bass line.

CD900st is what when you take 7506, compensate its lower end roll off and dampen its peak.

Not to m50x level bass but it is significant. Treble is more in control but still peaky.


7506- in studio recording standard(vocal and instrument focus)
CD900st- digital conversion for music producer( for studio listening, mixing and bass information)

V6- something in between, Sony wanted both performance

V7- inspiration for v6, it was more bassy for mentioning bass fault in older hardware, Sony thought that after v6 release, v7 is actually not needed for production...even if it is superior.

So they made cd900st and discontinued v7.

V8, V9 were limited release showing Sony technological feat back in 1980's.

V7 was derived from that.

V700DJ is new v7 with SubBass boosted and more controlled treble, but sound closed in and not spacious.


There was v10, only one in the world...released with Sony r10..


Sony r10- audiophile
Sony v10- for legendary monitoring.

There was Sony open back which looked like HD800, open back model but was too much treble and was discontinued

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones...w_of_the_cd900st_cartonode_engineering_mod_a/


CD900st cartonode mod... Review

Most Old Sony's I've heard were good. Honestly the only newer headphone I would consider from Sony right now is the Z1R as it's actually truly high fidelity, whether one likes it's tuning depends.

Interesting did not know about the V7, V8, V9, or the V10.

I've heard the XB1000 once, but it's been way too long. Had an XB700 as my very first full-sized headphone but never got to hear it amped. The MA900 on the other hand, was just ugh, way too dry sounding. The Z7 I found okay.

The R10 is my favorite headphone of all time.

You mean the Qualia 010, I've heard it, never found the treble too problematic when I listened to it given I got it to fit right, but it's insanely fickle with fit. Honestly I think the fitting issues and different headband sizes of the Qualia is what made it fail.
 
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Jun 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM Post #174 of 521
Most Old Sony's I've heard were good. Honestly the only newer headphone I would consider from Sony right now is the Z1R as it's actually truly high fidelity, whether one likes it's tuning depends.

Interesting did not know about the V7, V8, V9, or the V10.

I've heard the XB1000 once, but it's been way too long. Had an XB700 as my very first full-sized headphone but never got to hear it amped. The MA900 on the other hand, was just ugh, way too dry sounding. The Z7 I found okay.

The R10 is my favorite headphone of all time.

You mean the Qualia 010, I've heard it, never found the treble too problematic when I listened to it given I got it to fit right, but it's insanely fickle with fit. Honestly I think the fitting issues and different headband sizes of the Qualia is what made it fail.
Z1R is good???

No way, go listen Sony R10
 
Jun 1, 2018 at 10:53 AM Post #176 of 521
Nihon no ai no iro
Not to be stickler, but that kind of means: Japan's love of colour.

の in this context is a possessive particle. It's not really wrong but a little awkward. It this context it means the country rather than the people. It'd be the same as: "USA's love of color" instead of "Americans love color".

It's probably closer to:
日本人は色が大好き
Nihonjin wa iro ga daisuki
Japanese love color.

Boy, I watch too much anime.
 
Jun 1, 2018 at 1:49 PM Post #177 of 521
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Not to be stickler, but that kind of means: Japan's love of colour.

の in this context is a possessive particle. It's not really wrong but a little awkward. It this context it means the country rather than the people. It'd be the same as: "USA's love of color" instead of "Americans love color".

It's probably closer to:
日本人は色が大好き
Nihonjin wa iro ga daisuki
Japanese love color.

Boy, I watch too much anime.
Well in normal life, you say it as collective to country

India's love for colour
America's love for colour etc...


When we talk locally we use particle...

Everything can't be judged on grammer but on daily to life language usage..

Well you r right...


And this is a mod forummm


Aaaaahhhhhaaahh baka...!!

Talk about mods otherwise some moderator will kick me out..

LoL

Ask @Slater
 
Jun 2, 2018 at 9:38 AM Post #178 of 521
Not to be stickler, but that kind of means: Japan's love of colour.

の in this context is a possessive particle. It's not really wrong but a little awkward. It this context it means the country rather than the people. It'd be the same as: "USA's love of color" instead of "Americans love color".

It's probably closer to:
日本人は色が大好き
Nihonjin wa iro ga daisuki
Japanese love color.

Boy, I watch too much anime.
Oiii Mr. PockyG

You working on M1060 Fazor guide
 
Jun 2, 2018 at 10:19 AM Post #179 of 521
I've been recently thinking about the nature of headphone modding and how to properly attack it from a sound science perspective, rather than trial and error. I'm not an extremely experienced headphone modder, nor am I an audio engineer, but I'm looking for criticism of my headphone modding breakdown. This is just a collection of my speculations with sources.

My analysis is focused on closed-back headphone modding, although some of the concepts apply to open-back headphone modding.

It seems to me like most headphone mods come down to several forms:

1. Acoustic filter removal, or (less commonly) adding.

Most fabrics and types of paper seem to absorb certain frequency ranges. This is why you commonly see felt or other fabrics covering the driver. Sometimes, these fabrics are in the design for dust filter and protection reasons, other times it is to attenuate the sound.

An acoustic filter, in this case, is defined as anything on the ear-side part of the driver such that it blocks the path of the sound coming from the driver from directly entering the ear. Because the acoustic filter, generally speaking, absorbs higher frequencies better than it does lower frequencies, this almost always has the effect of reducing the treble.

As shown by Arnaud [0] and through experimentation, the thicker the acoustic filter, the greater the attenuation.

I hypothesis that, as a generalization, removal of an acoustic filter will increase the treble (more so the higher the frequency goes) and the opposite can be expected for the addition of an acoustic filter. It appears that the absorption of a lot of common filtering materials is going to start in the lower mids and continue to increase into the upper treble. I believe this treble boost is why people believe they often see a clarity increase as a result of removing an acoustic filter -- it's increased treble or extra "detail" in many cases.

2. Effective cavity size.

I believe this is a function of two parts. The first part is the raw function of filling the headphone cup cavity. Given that the speed of sound in air is roughly 343m/s, we can roughly estimate the wave length of a given frequency range. That is to say, if the length of the cavity matches the wave length of the sound wave, we should expect a resonance. Resonances appear in the frequency response as peaks preceded by a dip. This is a complete estimate and should not be expected to truly match the real resonance -- you'd need modeling software to truly figure this out as even lumped analysis struggles past 1khz.

We can estimate the resonant frequency of the headphone cup by measuring its depth and diameter and modeling it as a cylinder. In most situations, we are modding a closed-back headphone, so we will model it as an open-closed cylinder. The resonant frequency can be estimated using the formula f = (harmonic #) * (speed of sound) / (4 * ((depth of headphone in m) + 0.4 * (diameter of headphone cup in m)).

Thus, given a hypothetical headphone of 0.7cm depth and a 3cm diameter. Our estimated harmonic frequency will be f = 343 / (4 * (0.007 + 0.03 * .4))) = 4513hz. This matches pretty close to the ATH-M50 measurements’ resonance at InnerFidelity, interestingly, suggesting that we’re in the ball park on our resonance calcs [1].

Therefore, direct cavity stuffing can be interpreted as a function of reducing internal cup size. When you reduce internal cup size, you increase the internal resonance frequency (because the divisor drops), moving your dip further away into the higher frequencies.

Loose fitting of teased cotton balls or polyfill, however, INCREASES the effective cavity size. This is a known phenomenon in subwoofer fillers to "trick" the subwoofer into thinking it is in a larger enclosure [2]. In subwoofers, regardless of a ported or sealed sub, the effective size increases with certain densities of polyfill, changing the resonant frequency. Arnaud's calculations from [0] suggest that, theoretically, one can double the effective headphone cup size with the proper application of polyfill. This effect is also attenuated by the treble absorbing capabilities of the fibers, however.

[0] also notes the reduced compliance of the air when the cup size is reduced (or when ports are closed on a closed pair of headphones). In practice, this seems to show up as a reduction of the mid-bass frequencies and an increase in the sub-bass frequencies, going off T50RP data from the BMF thread. For example, the Acoustipack and felt mod measurements show this phenomenon going on [4].

Putting it all together, my hypothesis is that stuffing a headphone enclosure increases the resonant frequency of the housing, causing higher frequency resonances with greater amplitudes of the peaks. Very lightly filling the cavity with a polyfill material will reduce the resonant frequency but will also likely attenuate the treble frequencies to some degree.

2a. Figuring out resonant frequencies from more reliable means.

The model listed above is a very rough estimation and is not suggested if further measurements are available. Resonant frequencies appear on impedance graphs as blips for dynamic headphones [5]. These are not necessarily resonances due to the cavity size, but a resonance nonetheless. For this reason, we can look at the M50 graph again and see that there is a blip at around 4khz, which shows up as the valley and peak in the frequency response.

3. Mass loading

In T50RP modding, plasticine is a commonly used material to "mass load" the enclosure. It's origin appears to be speaker modding where weight is added to the base of a speaker to fine tune it [3]. In subwoofers, it is a form of resonance control to avoid losing energy to the cabinet itself rocking back and forth. The use of commercial roofing material and dynamat on headphones also appears to be a form of mass loading.

I could be wrong, but it seems to me like the amount of energy in the sound wave coming off the back wave of the driver would be insignificant compared to the mechanical energy contained in the driver itself. Logically, it seems to me like mass damping the mechanical vibrations off the driver housing is a lower hanging fruit than mechanical vibrations caused by the back wave. You can see this in such mods at the MarkL mods of the Denon DX000 series.

Given that many high end headphones are quite light (barring orthos which require a massive amount of magnets to make their drivers work), I don't think that mechanical vibrations are an issue in most cases at normal listening volumes. That said, I can't see how this would really hurt the sound quality unless it moved a resonance to some oddball location.

To prove my point, compare the overlay of a mass-damped mod compared with a non-mass-damped mod [12]. The FRs are so close that you could chalk up the differences between them to the differences just between measurements.

4. Back wave damping mechanisms

Most damping mechanisms revolve around damping the back wave of the headphone in some way. Not counting the mass loading variant using dynamat-type materials, this often involves materials like Creatology felt and acoustic foam. Given this [5] by arnaud, we can probably estimate that most materials used to absorb back waves probably follow similar curves when applied very thinly. arnaud also notes that the absorption goes DOWN as the cavity as filled as discussed in #2. Thus, back wave damping seems to often cross over into section 2 with cavity size.

An example of back wave damping is [4] where I have overlaid BMF's incremental stock T50RP (blue) vs. T50RP + Acoustipack and felt (green). I level matched the graphs at 1khz. One way to look at it is that the bass frequencies are all increased -- the alternate way to look at it is that all frequencies above 300hz are shelved. I believe the lower bass effects are resultant from the reduced air compliance causing the lower bass frequencies to rise and the mid-bass to sink.

Damping the rear of the driver appears to have an almost identical effect to damping the back wave in the ear of the cup [11]. This gives the interesting implication that a modder can achieve very similar effects to putting acoustic foam in the rear of the cup by just damping the rear of the driver itself. This can possibly allow for damping of the back wave while using less damping material, allowing for the usage of less materials and filling less volume.

4a. Front wave damping mechanisms

These are more rare as most headphones don’t really allow for it. In the case of headphones like the Sennheiser HD800, however, the driver is positioned far back and angled in the housing. This means that the front wave creates certain SPL hot spots on the inside of the headphone itself [1]. This can be damped to reduce the treble coming off the front wave and is the basis of most HD800 mods. Generally speaking, the maximum return on this is about -3dB attenuation of the treble [10].

A sub-type of the front wave damping is the damping of the front wave off the face. This appears in mods like the Jerg Fuzzor mod [9]. Because this is damping a reflection of a reflection, I would expect diminishing returns.

5. Headphone Pad Effects

There is a huge effect from rolling headphone pads. There are people vouching everything about this. The exact effects are still pretty elusive as there is not that much measurement data for pad rolling, and because pads can differ so much.

The rule of thumb seems to be that you get more bass the less compliant your headphone pads are (or less mids and treble, depending on how you look at it). That is to say, gel pads will have very high amounts of bass, leather/pleather pads will have more than velour pads, and also more bass with greater clamp (squished headphone pads == less complaint headphone pads) [6]. Mods like the “white caulk mod” where rope caulk is used to adhere a headphone pad to the headphone can be used to reduce air leakage on headphones where the pads are not fitting properly (i.e. trying to fit something like an FA-003 pad on a T50RP).

6. Bass Vent Tuning

Many closed-back headphones have bass vents in some way. The HD202 has them in a little spot on the center of the cup. The Sony MDR1R has them on the baffle [7]. The T50RP has them directly on the face of the cups. In all cases, covering or uncovering these vents causes massive changes to the bass response. Covering them up typically reduces the bass and changes the bass balance -- uncovering them unleashes the bass.

Theoretically, it seems like opening the bass vent allows for air in the back wave to exit from the headphone cup. This alters the compliance of the air behind the driver. Covering the vent decreases the air compliance, causing similar acoustic effects to the bass as a smaller cup size would entail. It appears that this has diminishing returns as, past a certain point, the bass instead begins to decreases as the headphone is opened more.

An example of a comparison between lightly damped and a sealed bass vent is shown by [8], an overlay of two measurements from the BMF T50RP thread. The decreased air compliance has resulted in a significant decrease in frequencies below 300hz, centered on the mid-bass, but also significantly reducing the sub-bass. As a generalization, we can suggest that sealing the bass vents appears to affect the mid-bass more significantly than the sub-bass, just as when we decreased air compliance via cup volume. Rin Choi’s measurements seem to suggest that, as vents are progressively more blocked, a peak begins to form at 1khz making it closer to a low pass filter.

7. Electrical Mods

The simplest of these mods is simply putting a resistor in the cable. Etymotics does this commercially with a 120 ohm resistor to “convert” an IEM into another. Speaking generally, adding a resistor to the cable increases the frequencies like the impedance chart looks -- peaks at certain frequencies turn into an increase at those frequencies.

Typically, this results in an increase in mid-bass as there is often a mid-bass resonance from the compliance of the headphone pads, referred to as “springiness” in the InnerFidelity article [5].

More advanced, users like Solderdude design passive circuits that essentially act as equalizers for the headphone. These can be specialized to fix a frequency response for a particular headphone or headphone mod. This has the downside of causing unintentional FR shifts when used with high impedance sources.

8. Driver Transplant

Moving the driver to a new housing will, of course, change the sound very significantly. Due to the massive variance in these types of mods, it’s hard to analyze.

[0] http://www.head-fi.org/t/452404/just-listened-to-some-fostex-t50rps-today-wow/2925#post_7784890
[1] http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHM50B2012.pdf
[2] http://www.moodym.com/audio/fiber.html
[3] http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/support/glossary/
[4] http://i.imgur.com/1xtIeRU.png
[5] http://www.innerfidelity.com/conten...eering-dr-tetsuro-oishi-visits-innerfidelit-0
[6] http://usir.salford.ac.uk/27397/
[7] http://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2013/08/on-modification-of-sony-mdr-1r-its-as.html
[8] http://i.imgur.com/R7YN1U5.png
[9] http://www.head-fi.org/t/692494/hifiman-fuzzor-mod-driver-backwave-felt-damping-modification
[10] http://www.head-fi.org/t/589738/sennheiser-hd-700-officially-unveiled-at-ces-2012/2985#post_8427494
[11] http://i.imgur.com/qEzt9Tf.png
[12] http://i.imgur.com/8CbjSRT.png


I've been reading the book Loudspeaker and Headphone Handbook - Third Edition by John Borwick. It has an entire section dedicated to the acoustic engineering of headphone designs. I've summarized as much as I can understand here:

[Applies to all] Cup vibration against face causes resonance in the frequencies of 150hz or less. Basically, your face and headphone cushion create a spring. The sound waves hitting your face cause the headphone's cup to vibrate slightly against the cushions and your face. This shows up as a resonance between 50hz and 150hz. Mass damping the cups can reduce this resonance, as well as switching to stiffer pads.

Suggested Mod: If there are significant issues resulting from a resonance in the bass frequencies, it is likely resultant from the headphone pads. If a headphone has a resonance issue at this frequency, consider switching pads or, to a lesser effect, mass damping the headphone cups. This effect is most greatly seen in the Beyerdynamic DT48's measurements at InnerFidelity [0].

[Applies to closed-back dynamic headphones] Headphone cushions have little influence above 1khz. Mechanical compliance of the pad affects the cup vibrations (i.e. the stiffer the pad, the less vibrations will occur, and reduce the cup vibrations).

Suggested Mod: You can have significant changes to the sound by switching out the headphone pads. In the simulations done in the book, the difference between an effectively impermeable headphone pad, a "normally functioning" pad, and no pad at all was about -6dB and -10dB at 100hz respectfully. Furthermore, the more sealed the headphone pad was, the more peak-y the FR was around 1-2khz -- more porous pads had a more smooth mids response.

Peer Review: Modders such as jerg and solderdude have caused changes to the treble through pad modding and pad rolling. The change could not be explained by level matching the treble -- the mods legitimately change the treble balance. Although I believe the general principles presented by Borwick apply, it seems like further reading into pad effects is needed.

[Applies to closed-back headphones] An unpredictable amount of sound leak can occur as a result of the headphone pads. To counteract this, circumaural headphones often create reproducible leak locations in the rear of the headphone. The leakier the headphone, the more bass roll-off occurs. Rather than bass vents, supraaural headphones often introduce leaks via making the cushions out of leaky materials where the resistance of the leak is lower than the leak via positioning, allowing for more reproducible leak reproduction.

Suggested Mod: Introduce open-celled foam under your headphone pads on supraaural headphones (or fully closed circumaurals) to create an area of lower acoustic resistance -- i.e. a leakier area to let the bass out and tune the bass response. This may also have the effect of reducing the difficulty in obtaining a seal due to the more controlled leakage.

The book also noted that a gel-filled headphone pad effectively acted as an impermeable pad. Thus, we can see that as the theoretical optimization of a bass-boost from headphone pad rolling. It's worth noting that this bass boost appears to center on the mid-bass, rather than the sub-bass. It's also possible that this can cause a dip around 1.5-2khz, however, from the simulation.

[Applies to open headphones] Even with identical frequency responses, studies have shown that open headphones have superior soundstaging. One possible factor is the acoustic crosstalk from the leakage under certain special circumstances, but that factor is drowned out by others like ambient noise and other psychological factors.

Another explanation (slightly less satisfactorily), closed-back headphones cause unnatural reflections off the ear surface, somewhat confusing the brain as to the location of sounds. By opening up the back, there are less internal reflections, allowing for a much more natural reflection of sound off the ear, making the soundstage sound wider and more natural.

[Applies to planar magnetics] The great bass linearity of planar magnetic headphones is a direct result of the low mass of the vibrating membrane. Very little energy is wasted and this linearity can occur without any interactions from the acoustic engineer. This can occur even with headphone pad leakage, making planar magnetic headphones more resistant to bass roll-off as a result of pad leakage. The stiffer the membrane, the more that the bass can roll-off with regard to leaks, though.

[0] http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicDT48.pdf
[1] http://cdn.head-fi.org/0/09/900x900px-LL-0959ca60_IMG_6749.JPG


I have read that book too.. 5 times

Well this is from another thread....if I can tag it here.

Well see, the calculation of what he did was of closed speaker and not headphone...

This can be applied to HD6xx series from senhiesser.

Well headphones have front port which connect to back chamber and m50x resonates at 8kHz.

Well, the calculation is correct but those port connect headphones back to the earpad internal area, which is compressed and headphone resonance hanged for everyone. Some people get harsh feeling from M50x and from my reasoning they have big head and the headphone clamps them harder making the pad squeeze and shift resonance to mids. Some people feel it is dark as resonance shifts on higher side.

Now why they were port shape? And why not something like Sony old studio type? And why they have paper?

They are port because they boost bass and mid reflected frequency and helps is better phase issue due to compression.

Paper is used to damp the response of treble(it damps the bloaty mids and some crappy bass).

Well Sony studio were first to implement this, but they opened the whole baffle up in some weird way which made v6 and 7506 sharper, even if they were not on frequency response.


The phenomenon of sibilant treble on headphone is artificial treble.


Well you mentioned, damping backwave reduce treble and increased subbass and MidBass.. You are right.

Damping back wave and standing wave helps in treble control as those are damped before the reach the baffle ports/slot.

Mid Bass and lower mids decrease as it dampens them, before they get reflected.

SubBass is mixed Bag. HM5 or yoga CD880 will get the subbass killed as the enclosure is big and subbass pressure is low from 45mm driver.

But some think like Sony mdr7506 subbass will increase and get better quality as the whole spectrum of back wave is dampened except for bass and paper resistor don't stop that much of bass frequency and neither foam at such close proximity. The pressure is high inside these small cups. So subbass increases and tightens up.

Cotton filling is mixed bag. Big enclosure setup shows some drastic change

For ex

Fostex t50rp
Brainwavz hm5

Etc.

Smaller headphones or monitor doesn't not get affected. Solderdude m40x mod showers no decay and FR change.

Mass loading for headphone is something like setting anchor for vibration distribution and helps in reducing unwanted overtone from rattling etc.


But from my experience dynamat is overkill, foam sheet weight does the job if place properly and at sweetspot. It does two jobs, first foam weight deadens the vibration, second foam surface area is larger and if foam vibrates, it just release some very low frequency ruffle sound, which is not audible.


Damping the back of speaker has different uses. When you put foam in the driver opening where voice coil is, it dampens, well that is correct but it also collect pressure there(very near to driver, hence can't be damped completely and pressure accumulates there).... That pressure avoid the diaphragm to move more backward or control excursion. This effect is what leads to roll of tight bass. For eg Sony and Shure. Shure 440 bass mod is example.



Well other info is sort of right and is cool. Well the post is old but thanks for sharing and helping people with mods.



Now, my version of backwave elimination mod. This mod can remove any back wave for eg standing wave, mixed waves and fundamental wave.

You need

Silverstone SF02 wave patter acoustic foam( higher surface area and more damping)

1mm cotton felt(something like audio technica monitors are equipped with)
You can experiment with other felt for some treble quality change and fiberglass wool felt can be used for complete treble killing but doesn't effect bass quality.
Layering of cotton and fiberglass can be done. 2mm is highest height I recommend.


So, my science behind it.

Once the back wave(generalised all wave) moves back, it passes through acoustic resistance and diffuser (felt). This dampens all the mids and treble waves plus diffuses it due to its fiber.. Here most of sound wave is turned into heat and is equally spread out(well not equally like ETL but sort of). This was inspired from Sony Z1R. Now when this wave gets to the other side of felt, where foam is present, it somewhat lower in pressure and more equally spread, which is then dampened in the foam cavity( dips in wave structured foam).

Most of the back wave is dampened out,now you must be thinking of our lovely subbass. Tension not guys, cotton and don't kill the subbass that much, normal foam interaction plus some subbass will be reflected from foam itself as it is air pressure.


Advantages
No polyfilling
Better subBass info
Clear treble
Mid imorovent on detail scaling

Somewhat like ETL sound but lower mid Bass(damping scheme is high)

Cons

Hard critical damping and sometimes over damping that's why stick with 1mm felts only

Not exactly, but roll off will begin on higher frequency but slope will be way less steep..

Sony mdr7506 roll off at 50Hz normally, can roll off at 80Hz theoretically but will have way less steeper slope, so subbass will be their in expense of mid Bass hit
 
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