[longbowbbs]

longbowbbs, but a lot of people claim that balancer armatures does not burn-in.

Yes they do. I am no scientist. However, Many of us have found that the JH16's improve after some time on them. I have no idea why. However, IMO mine did open up after about 150 hours or so. The mids and highs caught up with the extra bass to make a more coherent sound signature. I have quit debating with the other people and just enjoy my JH16's. YMMV.
 

 

[maguire]

Dont worry longbowbbs is speaking words of wisdom here. Let it be......
Seriously, you just have to give it at least 150-200 hours before you can seriously come to any conclusions about sound.

 

[highfidelity69]

People need to realize that with IEM's it is imperative that you feed them a good source, garbage in garbage out, they will not hide a bad recording. There is a reason musicians use custom IEM's.

 

[longbowbbs]

People need to realize that with IEM's it is imperative that you feed them a good source, garbage in garbage out, they will not hide a bad recording. There is a reason musicians use custom IEM's.

Big time +1

 

[Girls Generation]

  No one should ever judge new CIEM's....They must have 100-200 hours on them before you can get a sense of their true sound. Patience....

 
New anything*

 

[Girls Generation]

longbowbbs, but a lot of people claim that balancer armatures does not burn-in.

 
Although it is true that BAs don't burn in, the crossovers do. (Given that you believe in burn-in in the first place.)

 

[Bad Username]

   
Although it is true that BAs don't burn in, the crossovers do. (Given that you believe in burn-in in the first place.)

Not exactly. BA's, just like dynamics drivers, have a diaphragm. It is much smaller than dynamic but it is there. So it would make sense that there would still be burn in required.

 

[longbowbbs]

 

  No one should ever judge new CIEM's....They must have 100-200 hours on them before you can get a sense of their true sound. Patience....

 
New anything*

True....

 

[Thaigaryen]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I haven't judged these CIEMs yet just merely giving my initial impressions. Like I said I am very optimistic with the JH16s. I am hoping to post something great about these after 150+ hours like many have done so in this thread.



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[voteforpedro]

Thaigaryen, I am in the same boat as you. My new JH16's aren't as detailed, airy or open as I was hoping for. I am driving them with good content, played on an AK100 with an ALO International amp. I am hoping new cables from Double Helix will help out, as well as more time spent burning in. I probably have around 40 hours on them so far. The fit isn't the best on my right ear, primarily due to how it jams against my outer ear, but that seems to be getting better with time.
 
I also have a Centrance HiFi M8 on order so I can use my iPods lying around, and maybe that will help as well.

 

[bebop7]

Would anyone know if the sound would stay the same upon re shelling from a different company ?
I am after a used pair and would most likely send them to unique melody for re shelling.

 

[scolaiw]

  Would anyone know if the sound would stay the same upon re shelling from a different company ?
I am after a used pair and would most likely send them to unique melody for re shelling.

Anybody else can correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think anybody but JH can Freqphase it. So yes, you will lose sound quality. You could try and contact JH to see if you could work something out but I doubt it. 

 

[Girls Generation]

 
Anybody else can correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think anybody but JH can Freqphase it. So yes, you will lose sound quality. You could try and contact JH to see if you could work something out but I doubt it. 

 

  Would anyone know if the sound would stay the same upon re shelling from a different company ?
I am after a used pair and would most likely send them to unique melody for re shelling.

 
 
I'm probably wrong but if FreqPhase is just the driver placement and tube design, then UM can probably mimick and get it close, knowing UM. Just be prepared to wait 14 weeks just for the reshell and even more if they're going to have to test Freqphase mimicking.

 

[flaco]

  Thaigaryen, I am in the same boat as you. My new JH16's aren't as detailed, airy or open as I was hoping for. I am driving them with good content, played on an AK100 with an ALO International amp. I am hoping new cables from Double Helix will help out, as well as more time spent burning in. I probably have around 40 hours on them so far. The fit isn't the best on my right ear, primarily due to how it jams against my outer ear, but that seems to be getting better with time.
 
I also have a Centrance HiFi M8 on order so I can use my iPods lying around, and maybe that will help as well.

You should use an amp with output impedance close to 0. The international has about 21 Ohm. You loose bass and the phone doesn't sound how it should and how it was tuned. I have an AK120 and I dont listen with my jh16pro straight from the headphone out. I would never use the international for amping the jh16pro...

 

[headwhacker]

   
 
 
I'm probably wrong but if FreqPhase is just the driver placement and tube design, then UM can probably mimick and get it close, knowing UM. Just be prepared to wait 14 weeks just for the reshell and even more if they're going to have to test Freqphase mimicking.

 
14 weeks of waiting? The JH16 takes roughly 4 weeks to build from scratch. Speaking of which, just got a tracking info from JHAudio my JH16PRO is on transit.

 
The 4 weeks I spent waiting for it is agonizing let alone 14 weeks for a re-shelling.