Golden Ears
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For those who don't know me- as I don't post that often.... I hosted two LA meets in Venice.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/518042/los-angeles-meet-10-16-10
http://www.head-fi.org/t/553042/venice-beach-meet-impressions-thread-may-7-2011
I love the headphone community. I want to help improve it.
So lets abstract this a bit. (something I do to examine extremes)
Let's say we collected Railway Locomotives audio systems in private box cars.... instead of headphone systems.
We could have a meet- say at NYC Grand Central Station and show off our systems, which would be easier logistically than keeping the box cars at our homes and having to travel to each persons home.
Ironically- with the privacy of Boxcars- you can see this is even a better alternative to having to invite strangers into your livingroom. (I did it, and liked it though.. see links above )
Sounds ridiculous?
.... not really...
if you have ever gone to a high end car audio meet.... it's kinda like that. We meet , sit in each others cars with Sound Quality (not volume "boom cars") as the determining criteria.
And believe me- the car audio thing is a lot easier to coordinate that rallying people to each other's houses. With differing acoustics. At least with cars... some of the acoustics are similar...or identical!
This allows you to do some serious comparisons. In Headphones.. the listening acoustics are still not identical- you have not removed the listening room- like Ultrasones sound different to people with different outer ear structures- and universal IEM molds aren't really universal.
In Auto racing ... there was a race.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Race_of_Champions
Sure people made fun of it... but it tried to bring some consistency to racing. I tune car audio systems.
The corollary to this in terms of acoustics are the Hotel based Hi-end Meets. Where many hotel rooms are similar or in some cases identical. Since we can't get people to travel to homes- we put systems in similar situations... and have a go at it.. Kinda like having a car audio meet where only Honda Accords are allowed to compete.
Here it comes...
http://theshownewport.com
the RMAF, The Munich Show, CES etc.. there are tons...
I work these shows tuning rooms.
The rooms are no always identical- but many are similar, some are identical.
http://chapmanaudiosystems.com/speakers/show_reviews.pdf
There are problems logistically with these speaker system shows.
We are beginning to make some of the same mistakes... and I would like to see that the 'raison d'être" for these shows is not lost or subverted.
I have been on various headphone forums since the 1990's, I suggested making portable tube amps when people were making headphone amps in Altoids mint tins.
I've gone to meets like many others... on a quest to IMPROVE YOUR OWN RIG or to show others what your rig you made sounds like.
IMHO This is what shows MUST STAY FOCUSED UPON.
headfi is sorta unique as it did not start up like an audio magazine catering to the manufacturers.. in a sense it is more like what The Abso!ute Sound was like in its infancy when it wouldn't take ads so it could remain true to the listeners...that was a cool concept in theory.
I have a format for the Next SOCAL show that I would like to try that meets this criteria of focusing on serving the Head-fier and his quest and having the industry come second... in the end... its also best for the industry.
Not enough time to finish this post today- I will continue later.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/518042/los-angeles-meet-10-16-10
http://www.head-fi.org/t/553042/venice-beach-meet-impressions-thread-may-7-2011
I love the headphone community. I want to help improve it.
So lets abstract this a bit. (something I do to examine extremes)
Let's say we collected Railway Locomotives audio systems in private box cars.... instead of headphone systems.
We could have a meet- say at NYC Grand Central Station and show off our systems, which would be easier logistically than keeping the box cars at our homes and having to travel to each persons home.
Ironically- with the privacy of Boxcars- you can see this is even a better alternative to having to invite strangers into your livingroom. (I did it, and liked it though.. see links above )
Sounds ridiculous?
.... not really...
if you have ever gone to a high end car audio meet.... it's kinda like that. We meet , sit in each others cars with Sound Quality (not volume "boom cars") as the determining criteria.
And believe me- the car audio thing is a lot easier to coordinate that rallying people to each other's houses. With differing acoustics. At least with cars... some of the acoustics are similar...or identical!
This allows you to do some serious comparisons. In Headphones.. the listening acoustics are still not identical- you have not removed the listening room- like Ultrasones sound different to people with different outer ear structures- and universal IEM molds aren't really universal.
In Auto racing ... there was a race.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Race_of_Champions
Sure people made fun of it... but it tried to bring some consistency to racing. I tune car audio systems.
The corollary to this in terms of acoustics are the Hotel based Hi-end Meets. Where many hotel rooms are similar or in some cases identical. Since we can't get people to travel to homes- we put systems in similar situations... and have a go at it.. Kinda like having a car audio meet where only Honda Accords are allowed to compete.
Here it comes...
http://theshownewport.com
the RMAF, The Munich Show, CES etc.. there are tons...
I work these shows tuning rooms.
The rooms are no always identical- but many are similar, some are identical.
http://chapmanaudiosystems.com/speakers/show_reviews.pdf
There are problems logistically with these speaker system shows.
We are beginning to make some of the same mistakes... and I would like to see that the 'raison d'être" for these shows is not lost or subverted.
I have been on various headphone forums since the 1990's, I suggested making portable tube amps when people were making headphone amps in Altoids mint tins.
I've gone to meets like many others... on a quest to IMPROVE YOUR OWN RIG or to show others what your rig you made sounds like.
IMHO This is what shows MUST STAY FOCUSED UPON.
headfi is sorta unique as it did not start up like an audio magazine catering to the manufacturers.. in a sense it is more like what The Abso!ute Sound was like in its infancy when it wouldn't take ads so it could remain true to the listeners...that was a cool concept in theory.
I have a format for the Next SOCAL show that I would like to try that meets this criteria of focusing on serving the Head-fier and his quest and having the industry come second... in the end... its also best for the industry.
Not enough time to finish this post today- I will continue later.