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Nov 24, 2023 at 6:28 PM Post #1,726 of 2,483
I have not experienced periodic noise with ER. It sounded foggy in most scenarios even with JCAT Optimo 3 duo.

Foggy in the sense it was "coated" = locked

EDIT: Sorry not the JCAT but it was KECES/LHY/Teradak with custom cables.
 
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Nov 24, 2023 at 6:43 PM Post #1,727 of 2,483
when you do all this switching make sure they are shut off
Yep, I did.

I have not experienced periodic noise with ER. It sounded foggy in most scenarios even with JCAT Optimo 3 duo.

Foggy in the sense it was "coated" = locked

EDIT: Sorry not the JCAT but it was KECES/LHY/Teradak with custom cables.
I use the Ferrum Hypsos for the ER. I didn't get a hard or muddy sound in my system. It's very clear.
 
Nov 25, 2023 at 11:37 AM Post #1,728 of 2,483
1. You are experiencing periodic noise?
2. With or without the ER? - did it happen after the ER?
3. The ER is old tech please match and read up on the spec(ask LHY). I don´t think they are compatible. ER is old tech
Nonsense. People are using the Mutec REF10 Nano with the ER, and it is the latest technology. There are people using the LHY OCK-1 and OCK-2 with the ER. Unfortunately they don't seem to be great clocks.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metro...-1-used-in-lab-instead/msg4979827/#msg4979827

According to Alex Crespi from Uptone Audio, the ER's internal clock measurements exceed the OCK-1, and the the OCK-2 may provide a tiny benefit, assuming everything is implemented correctly, i.e. impedance matched correctly and a suitable clock cable.

First time reading that. I have a hunch that the square wave from the sw-10 and the sine-wave form from the etherregen is not meshing well.
The ER can work with either square or sine wave clocks. When you use the external clock input on the ER, the internal clock is out of the circuit.

The OCK-2 clock in your SW-10 should match technically, but square wave clock systems are extremely fussy about impedance in the devices and clock cable. It's possible you have an impedance issue, but I suspect the bigger problem is that you defeat the ER moat when you connect the SW-10 clock. The clock connection works on the B-side of the ER, and requires the external clock to be galvanically isolated. That is definitely not the case with the clock in the SW-10, so you are enabling a ground path from the SW-10 to the B-side of the ER. Ground potential in a digital system can cause the symptoms you are experiencing.

Have you tried clocking the LHY FMC from the SW-10 clock? That might be interesting if it's feasible.
 
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Nov 25, 2023 at 12:04 PM Post #1,729 of 2,483
Have you tried clocking the LHY FMC from the SW-10 clock? That might be interesting if it's feasible.
The LHY FMC does not have a clock input.

I just want to make sure no one is getting the wrong idea. I really like the SW-10. It's an absolute upgrade. I will be keeping it in my system for the foreseeable future.

Extremely 3D is the best description I can give it. It's the closest my system sounded to "singers being in the room" when using near field monitors. For headphones, I'm using the Susvara's, and they sound great. But speakers really emphasize the three dimensionality that the SW-10 adds. You can almost feel the heat/breath from singers, they sound more alive than digital. In Rachel Hardy's rendition of "The Rains of Castamere", I feel like I'm being sung to, not just listening to her sing.
 
Nov 25, 2023 at 2:24 PM Post #1,734 of 2,483
Me too, but the Ferris Hypsos is no slouch!
It's definitely up there. I've owned a few linear power supplies. Jcat Optimo 3 Duo, Fidelizer Nikola 2, Uptone JS-2, Ferrum Hypsos, and the ifi ipower elite. The Jcat, Ferrum, and Fidelizer are my top 3 for power supplies (not in that order).

Have you had a listen with the Hypsos?
 
Nov 25, 2023 at 2:48 PM Post #1,736 of 2,483
No, unfortunately I have not. I have heard Keces, MPAudio, SLS, SJ DC3, SJ DC4, Paul Hynes SR7T.

Almost forgot the Jcat Optimo Nano, currently using that for the Jcat Master Ocxo.
Ah, so you got the jcat clock upgrade. What kind of improvements, if any, did you notice? I'm a little hesitant in sending off my jcat card.
 
Nov 25, 2023 at 3:08 PM Post #1,737 of 2,483
Ah, so you got the jcat clock upgrade. What kind of improvements, if any, did you notice? I'm a little hesitant in sending off my jcat card.
I have tried the JCAT USB XE with two different clocks. The Sclk-ex and the Jcat Master Ocxo. Sort of off topic for this thread so I’ll shoot you a PM. It is a worthwhile move.

Also worth noting - the AfterDark Edgerouter ER-4 (I asked Adrian to modify mine) sounds wonderful: IMG_3020.jpeg

As does the modified Startech PEX1000SFP2:71900750815__07D4C1A5-F0CA-4033-855A-6FBFB884C450.jpeg
 
Nov 25, 2023 at 7:04 PM Post #1,738 of 2,483
Also worth noting - the AfterDark Edgerouter ER-4 (I asked Adrian to modify mine) sounds wonderful:

As does the modified Startech PEX1000SFP2:
Man @Exocer your system is pretty tricked out now, impressive, no wonder the iFi LAN iSilencer didn't bring the benefits it does to more modest ethernet chains like mine! 😅

You must be due to send your Ref 10 back to Muted one of these days for the SE120 upgrade, let me helpfully remind you in case you'd forgotten... 😉

*Mutec sorry, damn auto-incorrect
 
Nov 26, 2023 at 5:11 PM Post #1,740 of 2,483
Is the last 200 posts about helping @Tubewin with his sw10? Yes no? Then maybe i can save some time not reading that.
 

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