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[OCC7N]

Yeah, it seems a lot louder without the ER. Not sure if it is entirely a good thing or not.

Great sign and also my impression with ER. My router sounded better fully open, with crisp highs. Musical and free, not locked.

The ER looks like an over-engineered mess imo. There are more power conditioning on that pcb than my entire system.

These types of audiophile products with a lot of power conditioning components are for people with poor power.

For people with great power skip these kinds of products, be aware of the trend.

 

[Jake2]

So, I opened the unit to make sure that the clock was set to 75 ohms with the dip switch, but it was not. I switched it to 75 ohms as depicted in the picture. My question is what is the other dip switch that says 7dbm and 13 dbm?

Cybershaft have something similar on some of their models. I believe it allows for attenuation/adjustment of the strength of the clock output signal for equipment matching but Beatechnik would be best placed to explain this including what the default setting should be for most partnered gear.

 

[audiobomber]

Great sign and also my impression with ER. My router sounded better fully open, with crisp highs. Musical and free, not locked.

Distortion often sounds brighter and more detailed, but it's false detail. I suspect that's where you went wrong.

The ER looks like an over-engineered mess imo. There are more power conditioning on that pcb than my entire system.

These types of audiophile products with a lot of power conditioning components are for people with poor power. For people with great power skip these kinds of products, be aware of the trend.

Thousands of happy EtherREGEN owners would disagree with you. I have a friend with dedicated AC power lines, Synergistic Research PowerCell 12 SE, Synergistic Research grounding block, and an ER. What would you suggest for him to reach your level of power conditioning? LOL!

 

[OCC7N]

Distortion often sounds brighter and more detailed, but it's false detail. I suspect that's where you went wrong.

Thousands of happy EtherREGEN owners would disagree with you. I have a friend with dedicated AC power lines, Synergistic Research PowerCell 12 SE, Synergistic Research grounding block, and an ER. What would you suggest for him to reach your level of power conditioning? LOL!

A new set of ears

EDIT: It was a joke, but Im not saying my opinions are facts. Im just saying If I wanted to throw music behind real bars(jail) it would be the ER

 

[audiobomber]

Yeah, it seems a lot louder without the ER. Not sure if it is entirely a good thing or not.

My suggestion is to try this with your gear:
Source > LHY FMC > SW-10 > ER
Everything fiber, except from the source and after the ER. Sequential high-end switches add benefits, and fiber optic beats copper.

 

[Tubewin]

My suggestion is to try this with your gear:
Source > LHY FMC > SW-10 > ER
Everything fiber, except from the source and after the ER. Sequential high-end switches add benefits, and fiber optic beats copper.

By source, you mean modem and wifi router? If so, that is my pretty much my chain.
Modem > wifi router(router does not have sfp) > ethernet cable to LHY FMC > fiber to SW-10 > ethernet to ER.

 

[audiobomber]

By source, you mean modem and wifi router? If so, that is my pretty much my chain.
Modem > wifi router(router does not have sfp) > ethernet cable to LHY FMC > fiber to SW-10 > ethernet to ER.

I suggest to use the FMC for fiber conversion from the router, so the SW-10 would see a fiber optic signal in and out.

 

[Jake2]

My suggestion is to try this with your gear:
Source > LHY FMC > SW-10 > ER
Everything fiber, except from the source and after the ER. Sequential high-end switches add benefits, and fiber optic beats copper.

Good suggestion, and worth a try, for the reason you suggest. Reading source as
'internet source' i.e. modem/router.

I'd also suggest trying Modem/router > ER > LHY FMC > SW-10. For the reason of putting one's best clocked switch last, closest to your server/streamer, whilst still getting the benefit of the ER cleaning up/reclocking the ethernet signal from the router ahead of the LHY > LHY fibre step. I don't have the ER, but have found a good switch + LPS upstream of an FMC pair is audibly beneficial and would expect it to further improve on what @Tubewin is currently hearing.

 

[Tubewin]

My suggestion is to try this with your gear:
Source > LHY FMC > SW-10 > ER
Everything fiber, except from the source and after the ER. Sequential high-end switches add benefits, and fiber optic beats copper.

I didn't have the ER set to external clock until yesterday. So my previous impression on the clock isn't accurate. It actually doesn't sound too good with the clock from the sw-10 going into the ER. There is some strange random distortions at random times, and sounds less 3D with the clock going into the ER. There might be some conflict between the two clocks.

 

[Tubewin]

I suggest to use the FMC for fiber conversion from the router, so the SW-10 would see a fiber optic signal in and out.

The fmc is being used for fiber conversion.

Modem -> pangea lan cable -> Wifi router (does not have sfp port)-> neotech 3008 -> LHY FMC -> fiber cable -> SW-10 -> Neotech 3008 -> ER ->dcbl7 lan cable -> Jcat

 

[Tubewin]

Good suggestion, and worth a try, for the reason you suggest. Reading source as
'internet source' i.e. modem/router.

I'd also suggest trying Modem/router > ER > LHY FMC > SW-10. For the reason of putting one's best clocked switch last, closest to your server/streamer, whilst still getting the benefit of the ER cleaning up/reclocking the ethernet signal from the router ahead of the LHY > LHY fibre step. I don't have the ER, but have found a good switch + LPS upstream of an FMC pair is audibly beneficial and would expect it to further improve on what @Tubewin is currently hearing.

So far my findings:

The most 3D sound I get is when I put the ER at the end of the chain.

Things get louder, not necessarily better, when I put the SW-10 at the end of the chain.

When I remove the LHY FMC, it becomes more 2 dimensional and flat.

Reclocking the ER from the SW-10 does not sound good. I had not swapped the ER to external clock mode until yesterday, and found out it didn't synergize with the sw-10. Using a 75 ohm bnc cable from the SW-10 to the ER. Had swapped the sw-10 clock from 50 to 75 ohms. It introduced noise and random distortion.

 

[Tubewin]

I'd also suggest trying Modem/router > ER > LHY FMC > SW-10. For the reason of putting one's best clocked switch last, closest to your server/streamer, whilst still getting the benefit of the ER cleaning up/reclocking the ethernet signal from the router ahead of the LHY > LHY fibre step.

I've noticed after using LHY FMC, that everything before/upstream of the fiber connection has a very reduced impact on the overall sound. Lan cable's don't make a big enough difference before the LHY FMC fiber connection, in my system. Not sure if the ER would make a big enough difference upstream of the FMC, to warrant keeping it in the chain at that point.

 

[audiobomber]

I'd also suggest trying Modem/router > ER > LHY FMC > SW-10

The problem is that the fiber port on the ER is on the A-side. Running the ER as designed, A-side source, B-side to the end point, sounds best.

 

[audiobomber]

I didn't have the ER set to external clock until yesterday. So my previous impression on the clock isn't accurate. It actually doesn't sound too good with the clock from the sw-10 going into the ER. There is some strange random distortions at random times, and sounds less 3D with the clock going into the ER. There might be some conflict between the two clocks.

External clocking is a mine field. I haven't gone there, and may never try it with the ER.

 

[audiobomber]

The fmc is being used for fiber conversion.

Modem -> pangea lan cable -> Wifi router (does not have sfp port)-> neotech 3008 -> LHY FMC -> fiber cable -> SW-10 -> dcbl7 lan cable -> Jcat

I really think you should try inserting the ER via fiber from the SW-10.

IME with the SW-10, the ethernet ports are noticeably inferior to the SFP ports.