Quote:
Originally Posted by milkweg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Heh, I'm the same way with my DVD collection. A friend of mine keeps giving me his old DVD's as he buys them in BluRay versions and while I do appreciate it I have to say it is watering down the quality of my collection. I abolutely refuse to give his Steven Seagal movies a home though.
Some albums need more listens to fully judge them but if I know a band really well then it is not always the case. The 2004 The Cure cd didn't get great reviews but I found far more than one good song on it. I would say it had 3 or 4 fairly good songs. 4:13 Dream is not bad, I just find it mediocre and for The Cure that is not acceptable to me. I expect better from them because I know they are capable of it. But I guess they have had their day and it is time to move on. I don't consider Disintegration as their high point like many people do either. For me that would be 17 Seconds, Faith and Pornography as the height of their artisitic creativity.
|
Point taken. I can understand how one can have more of an instant feel for something in that way and judge the quality quicker, quality being the key word. This may evade wants, hopes, desires, preconceptions narrowations of band-width as you listen and all that, that what can unfairly bias a listener's perception as they listen to a new record or release from a band etc. It sounds to me, now, like you do approach and have approached this listen with an open mind and a willingness to follow the artist(s) and what they want to explore and/or express, and you're, from having listened extensively to them and their careeer, are simply able to tap in and feel and see that these arrangements are not to the quality or creativity they have previously exhibited down the years. In that respect yu see it as disjointed, sluggish, mediocre. I can understand that. Still I will listen with an open mind, be recpetive to the artists art and ideas and concepts etc and 'truly' listen to them, and see what I feel about it (which is ultimately the point and what one needs to do for themselves
).
P.s.// I gota mate into Segeal also. He's got all his DVD's. Terrible films. But worthy of a chuckle!
Quote:
Originally Posted by PWilson
Generally I agree that an album needs a few listens before a judgement is made. Some will really start to shine as it clicks into place. Some, however, will stay at the murky depths .
|
I agree. This is generally my experience to a tee, pretty much. However, I can imagine and have experienced to some extent what Milkweg details ie having enough experiece of an artist(s), their careers and music etc, that you can begin to adjudge the quality of the compositions, musical complexity and/or creativity etc etc more quickly/instantly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jernmo
Agreed about the number of listens Blood. I won't pass judgment on an album unless I've heard it at least three times. Also I've noticed that if I don't like an album, I put it away for a few weeks and bring it out again. Sometimes that's when I really discover that the songs were great, I just may not have been in the mood at the time, or expecting something else.
|
It's funny you should say that as I've been beginning to notice that I do this a lot lately! Music I bought 4-5 months ago I'm suddenly relistening to, clicking with and thoroughly enjoying
Quote:
Originally Posted by bong
i may be biased as i'm sure people on head-fi probably label me as The Cure fanboy#1, but i like the new album. it has a lot of surprises, twist and turns for a Cure album... although i do kinda agree it isn't as instantly likeable as the last self-titled one. i do think this is a grower. 4:13 Dream has been getting a lot more positive reviews than the self-titled album four years ago IIRC.
that said, "Underneath the Stars" is as hauntingly beautiful as anything from "Plainsong" to "All Cats are Grey," it's that good! best Cure song in quite a long while. "The Scream" is satisfyingly dark, aggressive, and angry, and "The Reasons Why" is classic poppy, melancholy Cure. Three of my faves from the new album at the moment. IMO "The Perfect Boy" is my pick of the four singles released.
saw them live just this past July, and The Cure never ceases to amaze me... they truly are the kings of stamina! let's see some young whipper-snapper band play three hours straight.
oh, and they have been awarded NME's Godlike Genius award for 2009... 'bout effin' time too, should've been awarded before New Order in my opinion, and i love both bands.
The Cure honoured - Music news, latest news, artists, bands | MSN Music UK | MSN Entertainment | MSN UK
EDIT: oh, and it has been reported that there were enough material to fill up two albums during this recording session... the album released as 4:13 Dream consciously collected the set of upbeat and more rock-sounding songs. the other songs recorded are supposed to be very dark and melancholy (straight from the horse's mouth, Mr. Smith) and may be released next spring... should satisfy those who are waiting for Disintegration II or something
|
Haha, I remember your name from the thread I started when I was looking for new Cure material recommendations to explore after Wish! I think, also, possibly, from the I started citing impressions of Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me, I subsequently bought.
As it happens, that album has and is growing on me massively!
I understand your possible bias- but I'm likely to be biased also as I've gotten into The Cure pretty solidly!-, but it's great to hear some positive remarks about the new record and it's encouraging for me that you cite it as a grower! I knew they had made that decision to go in that more poppy, bouncier, happier vein for this release, and thus most of the more heavy and moody songs cut were left off this release (hopefully and I think with intention to be released in the future) but I like either focus/style they adopt so no probs there! I'm gona have to pick it up. Still I think I'll stick with my plan- listen to an digest The Top through Wish; listen and digest Three Imaginary Boys through Pornography; Wild Mood Swings through 4:13 Dream.