THE COMPOSER OPEN BACK FLAGSHIP by AUSTRIAN AUDIO
Feb 20, 2024 at 8:14 AM Post #2,416 of 3,203
When I took off the earpads I noticed the foam covering the drivers is splitting and coming away from the glue. The same for both ears.
Do you think I should glue it back?
The longer I look at the picture, the more I think not the clue is the problem. Why the foam still sticks to the frame and the rest is broken off?
Sure there was no violence at the game?
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 8:15 AM Post #2,417 of 3,203
Following reply from Austrian Audio.
Not very helpful.
"It is attached with adhesive tape and has never come loose without force during our tests. If the headphones arrived like this, the damage must have occurred at the dealer. This foam (with adhesive tape) will be available as a replacement part from specialist dealers - but at the moment these parts are only being rolled out. I would not glue it on because glue IN the foam can have an unfavorable effect on the acoustics."
I cannot see any adhesive tape.
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 8:23 AM Post #2,419 of 3,203
If you want to be the lead head-fi promoter for a product
He never said that he wanted to be that, that's your Interpretation
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 8:25 AM Post #2,420 of 3,203
Stop deflecting. If you want to be the lead head-fi promoter for a product, you can't run away from it's flaws.

I'm not worried about it, because I'm as headphone enthusaist personally very satisfied with the composer as well as the other models that are in my signature👍
(others don't have to be 😉)

And now I'm taking my power 💪 nap 🤪

NOMAX

PS.lol
 
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Feb 20, 2024 at 8:27 AM Post #2,421 of 3,203
Unfortunately only a select few models can do away with foam completely… even the K1000 has parts that age (that glue around the diaphragm if I remember correctly).

I guess no model is made for eternity. Which doesn’t mean that introducing additional problems for some cost benefit is a good idea. Think glued pads. Fixed cables — maybe a problem, but the solution introduces additional problem spots (connectors). Always a trade off.

Somehow I’m interested in the sound without that foam piece…
I'd like to hear AA's view about the replacement of these foam layers. Is it meant to be a self replaceable sparepart or is it meant to be replaced in a pro audio service. If the old glue is strongly sticked next to drivers the operation might rise one's blood pressure quite a a bit?!?
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 8:38 AM Post #2,422 of 3,203
I'd like to hear AA's view about the replacement of these foam layers. Is it meant to be a self replaceable sparepart or is it meant to be replaced in a pro audio service. If the old glue is strongly sticked next to drivers the operation might rise one's blood pressure quite a a bit?!?
The answer posted above talks about adhesive tape (which I admittedly don’t see in the photo), and of the availability of that foam for self repair. That’s all I know at the moment…

I did pull lightly on the foams on my headphone, but nothing moved… don’t want to tear them apart
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 8:43 AM Post #2,423 of 3,203
As dynavit wrote above for someone aquainted with Stax this is not something to be afriad of. It will take one or two decades before it will start to crumble :wink:
and with these quite delicate Stax drivers I would be much more worried about the crumbling.
What worries me more is that the foam of the Stax heaphones were for dust protection only and not for tuning of the headphone. So with the composer I would worry more about a possible slow change in the sound signature as the foam gets older and might change its "filter properties". Only time will tell if this will be a real issue.
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 8:58 AM Post #2,424 of 3,203
He never said that he wanted to be that, that's your Interpretation

Seriously? He's made almost 25% of the posts in this thread, all of which are overwhelmingly positive. He speaks as though he's the MOT.

If you want to be the head cheerleader for a product (paid or not), then you can't deflect reasonable criticism. And the foam is definitely a reasonable criticism.
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 9:00 AM Post #2,425 of 3,203
Unfortunately only a select few models can do away with foam completely… even the K1000 has parts that age (that glue around the diaphragm if I remember correctly).

I guess no model is made for eternity. Which doesn’t mean that introducing additional problems for some cost benefit is a good idea. Think glued pads. Fixed cables — maybe a problem, but the solution introduces additional problem spots (connectors). Always a trade off.

Somehow I’m interested in the sound without that foam piece…

It depends my Audeze LCD2 is still going strong and currently counting it's 13th year anniversary. I don't mind filters as I owned Cascade and tried Aeon, but never seen such a thick layer of foam stuck to the driver. This would improve bass and tame brightness by quite a large margin. On it's own I bet composer sounds brighter then Grados.

Either way If you adore the sound that's whats matters most
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 9:18 AM Post #2,426 of 3,203
Following reply from Austrian Audio.
Not very helpful.
"It is attached with adhesive tape and has never come loose without force during our tests. If the headphones arrived like this, the damage must have occurred at the dealer. This foam (with adhesive tape) will be available as a replacement part from specialist dealers - but at the moment these parts are only being rolled out. I would not glue it on because glue IN the foam can have an unfavorable effect on the acoustics."
I cannot see any adhesive tape.

I actually noticed the adhesive tape in your photo before seeing this post, can look at the red circle spots where its more obvious

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Feb 20, 2024 at 9:20 AM Post #2,427 of 3,203
He never said that he wanted to be that, that's your Interpretation
Seriously? He's made almost 25% of the posts in this thread, all of which are overwhelmingly positive. He speaks as though he's the MOT.

If you want to be the head cheerleader for a product (paid or not), then you can't deflect reasonable criticism. And the foam is definitely a reasonable criticism.


Strange....that nobody got upset with the French or Stealth either😉

NOMAX
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 9:23 AM Post #2,428 of 3,203
God catch kn17h7. Still, the correct positioning of the foam might be tricky. Wonder if there are some markings which could help with this.
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 9:24 AM Post #2,429 of 3,203
Seriously? He's made almost 25% of the posts in this thread, all of which are overwhelmingly positive. He speaks as though he's the MOT.

If you want to be the head cheerleader for a product (paid or not), then you can't deflect reasonable criticism. And the foam is definitely a reasonable criticism.
Well he is no MoT, he just has more insider knowledge that he is willing to share.

If you want to connect any manufacturer responsibility to that, that's on you.

I do however agree that the foam issue is reasonable criticism, just to be clear on that.
 

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