The Cayin C5 portable power house.
Dec 14, 2014 at 3:09 PM Post #841 of 2,420
Now I understand why you're getting a faulty unit. Don't be tempted and fooled by discounts.


No you don't understand. The item sold for $170 like normal. I told them that I had seen the item for sale on Black Friday and I was in between this amp and the Fiio E12. They offered to fix the price for me to that of the Black Friday sale, which was at $150.
 
Dec 14, 2014 at 5:36 PM Post #842 of 2,420
After listening to the Cayin C5 and Fiio X5 combo some more, I can say with certainty that it is a much better sounding combo than the X5 + stock E12 to my ears. I was actually disappointed with the X5/stock E12 combo, because I felt that the E12 actually degraded the listening experience in most cases compared to the X5s headphone out. I did note that the E12 provided better separation and more control to the sound, especially with something pretty hard to drive like my HE-500. Overall however, I felt that the built in amp of the X5 provided a smoother, warmer, more musical sound with better soundstage depth. The E12 was technically nice, but somewhat cold and synthetic sounding. The timbre is somehow off on the stock E12 IMO.
 
Pairing X5 with C5 is a completely different story. I clearly prefer the sound of the C5 to that of the X5s built in amp and by a good margin. There are still instances where X5s headphone out can sound a little more fun due to its warmer coloration with more prominent bass and low mids, but those are far and few in between. Gone is the somewhat cold, unnatural sound that the stock E12 introduced and C5 sounds much cleaner than the X5s headphone out as well - much cleaner. I think the difference in separation and clarity is more pronounced in case of stock E12 vs. X5s headphone out - E12 sounded cleaner, but seemingly not by such a great amount. Switching from the C5 to X5s internal amp makes the latter sound positively muddy in comparison. C5 also offers much better separation, a much wider soundstage and a lot more depth to music detail. C5 sounds far snappier, more dynamic and effortless vs X5s built in amp with all my headphones, even those that are easy to drive. There's a much blacker background with the C5 too - each sound occupies its own space, and sounds can leap out with striking realism. Switching the X5s internal amp reveals a much flatter musical landscape with far less dynamics and articulation. I am really surprised how poorly X5s headphone out fares vs. the line out to C5 and I wonder if Fiio engineers could've improved the internal amp quality any further, considering the unit size limitations. Probably not, or not by any significant amount. Ok, I am not saying that the X5s internal amp sounds bad, because it doesn't, but it does not do justice to the DAC at all IMO, not being able to reveal a lot of its potential. The C5 is able to show much more of what the PCM1792 can do IMO. Now, I also wonder if higher end amps can improve the sound of the X5 even more...
 
Dec 14, 2014 at 6:21 PM Post #844 of 2,420
Shenzhenaudio is a reliable company :)


Yeah I do agree, they are a great company. The only problem is they have no control over the units sold that are fufilled by Amazon. Im considering sending this one back and reordering a new one, but with a total of four defective units, their's a good chance the next one will have a problem as well :frowning2: I really like the sound on this thing.
 
Dec 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM Post #846 of 2,420
+1 also.

Every time I received a dud unit (usually battery issues with various low-volume specialist amps) they were very quick to ship out a replacement.
 
Dec 14, 2014 at 9:36 PM Post #848 of 2,420
I do have the advantage of living in China, so this isn't really an issue. I have no idea how this is handled for international orders.

Nevertheless, a retailer can't generally be held responsible for the quality of a product in a manufacturer's sealed box...

I would, rather, suspect that Cayin may have rushed the C5 to market a little. My first one also had the cracked plastic problem.
 
Dec 15, 2014 at 1:49 AM Post #851 of 2,420
Hey, i just got my C5 earlier today, i left it to charge for a few hours, but now when im trying to use it on my PC, its not detecting it, am i doing something wrong?
 
nvm silly me.. guess i just connect it through the audio port..
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Dec 15, 2014 at 2:31 AM Post #852 of 2,420
Hey, i just got my C5 earlier today, i left it to charge for a few hours, but now when im trying to use it on my PC, its not detecting it, am i doing something wrong?

nvm silly me.. guess i just connect it through the audio port.. :etysmile:


Just wondering, is the volume knob on yours stiff or loose? And from what seller did you buy it from?
 
Dec 15, 2014 at 2:37 AM Post #853 of 2,420
Just wondering, is the volume knob on yours stiff or loose? And from what seller did you buy it from?


I don't know what you classify as stiff or loose but I certainly wouldn't call mine stiff. It feels just the same as the E12 volume pot if that's any help.
 
Dec 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM Post #855 of 2,420
I don't know what you classify as stiff or loose but I certainly wouldn't call mine stiff. It feels just the same as the E12 volume pot if that's any help.


Yeah the E12 has a stiff knob. Mine arrived really loose.

I'm heavily considering returning this one. But I think I may buy from another seller, after 4 defective units, I fear the next one will have some problem too.
 

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