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How come is there a difference in SQ between the 2 settings...I may have to investigate 

 
There is NO SQ difference, just one is louder than the other.
 

 

[danny93]

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There is NO SQ difference, just one is louder than the other.
 

 
Is the CKS77 not loud enough in low gain then?

 

[RPGWiZaRD]

 
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There is NO SQ difference, just one is louder than the other.

 
Not for me, but it depends on what headphone used how much of a difference noticed, for Q40 the bass loses a lot of punch in low gain and the mids are more forward/in-your-face (I'd optimally prefer low gain's mids + high gain's punchier bass and that's what ZO2.1 gives me with that headphone though). CKS77 it wasn't that big difference, mostly ever so slightly loss in bass punch.
 

 

[Totally Dubbed]

I rather use everything on high gain - and adjust on source, put it that way.

 

[snoopy007]

danny93,
 
For dynamic iem, using high or low gain usually doesn't effect the sound signature that much. just a volume difference.

 

[RPGWiZaRD]

 
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danny93,
 
For dynamic iem, using high or low gain usually doesn't effect the sound signature that much. just a volume difference.

 
It may affect how ZO/SmartVektor sounds though which it does to my ears.
 
Well I must say CKS77 smoothens out slightly by burn-in. The upper-mid peakiness is a bit better after the over-night burn-in but still very much there (used bassy Hardstyle coupled with ZO2.1 for some serious bass response to get the drivers a good work out), currently listening with EQ disabled and it sounds quite listenable with occasional harshness/shoutiness popping up here and there. Using the tip position further away surely helps too to flatten out the sound but too shame the overall sound signature is a bit too distant then (especially the distance to the mids; the vocalists, instruments etc in that case). The bass is very powerful when I'm listening atm with ZO2.1 even at a few levels below what I typically use with Q40, maybe lvl3-4 vs lvl7 or so. However I still miss the "bass-massage" feeling a headphone can give which IEMs doesn't (quantity wise this is roughly similar but it obviously doesn't feel the same as a fullsize headphone).
 
It sounds best paired with ZO2.1 but it also has more hissing than with ZO2.3. Does any1 know of any impedance-cables I could try, the IEM is also SCARINGLY loud with ZO2.1. With highest vol setting on ZO2.1, I have to use 6% volume in windows.... :O
 
It's clear at this point I won't become an IEM-guy but I don't regret the purchase though as it's worth having an IEM that comes very close to my preferred sound.

 

[Totally Dubbed]

You know in fact....if these had less bass....i would prefer them.
Let alone my little problem with the microphonics.

 

[danny93]

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You know in fact....if these had less bass....i would prefer them.
Let alone my little problem with the microphonics.

 
really...I am loving the bass on these...even put about 5 levels more with the ZO2 haha 

 

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really...I am loving the bass on these...even put about 5 levels more with the ZO2 haha 

I guess you take my title as mr. basshead lol.
 
Oh and my MG7's are now up for sale :/
PFE232...what did you do to me...

 

[danny93]

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I guess you take my title as mr. basshead lol.

 
Woop, woop!! 

 
Is the MG7´s FS partly due to the CKS77´s too?

 

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Woop, woop!! 

 
Is the MG7´s FS partly due to the CKS77´s too?

Well yes and no.
 
The cks77's sound great, no doubt...but I doubt they would take the place of the MG7's over my no1 earphone.
Simple reasons for the cks77''s against the mg7's
-Microphonics I can't stand
-Aren't as comfortable
-Aren't that great for trance (too much bass)
-Have too much emphasis on the lows
 
MG7's on the other hand:
-Sound a little lifeless
-Closed soundstage
-Harder to drive
 
It's very, very hard to decide which I prefer.
I like, but not love both.
A baby between them would provide bliss.
 

 

[quisxx]

Lol, listening to the negatives "Dubbed" lists for the 77's makes me anticipate getting them in the mail even more

 

[Totally Dubbed]

haha

 

[Sweden]

I got my 52 USD ebay red pair yesterday. I only got the tips that where on the in-ear and no obvious physical flaw that I can see. First impressions where not that great. Loose bass, recessed midrange and very bad microphonics. After some time burning these in they are sounding much better but still too much damn bass for my taste which was pretty much expected. Still the midrange isn't really that great but for the price it's pretty descent. 

 

[WakiDabeast]

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It may affect how ZO/SmartVektor sounds though which it does to my ears.
 
Well I must say CKS77 smoothens out slightly by burn-in. The upper-mid peakiness is a bit better after the over-night burn-in but still very much there (used bassy Hardstyle coupled with ZO2.1 for some serious bass response to get the drivers a good work out), currently listening with EQ disabled and it sounds quite listenable with occasional harshness/shoutiness popping up here and there. Using the tip position further away surely helps too to flatten out the sound but too shame the overall sound signature is a bit too distant then (especially the distance to the mids; the vocalists, instruments etc in that case). The bass is very powerful when I'm listening atm with ZO2.1 even at a few levels below what I typically use with Q40, maybe lvl3-4 vs lvl7 or so. However I still miss the "bass-massage" feeling a headphone can give which IEMs doesn't (quantity wise this is roughly similar but it obviously doesn't feel the same as a fullsize headphone).
 
It sounds best paired with ZO2.1 but it also has more hissing than with ZO2.3. Does any1 know of any impedance-cables I could try, the IEM is also SCARINGLY loud with ZO2.1. With highest vol setting on ZO2.1, I have to use 6% volume in windows.... :O
 
It's clear at this point I won't become an IEM-guy but I don't regret the purchase though as it's worth having an IEM that comes very close to my preferred sound.

hmm, am looking for some bass massaging headphones to pair with the z02, any suggestions south of 300, preferably south of 200? I was looking at the PRO700MKii (the ANV version is going for 270 at aim to find), Pro900, ES10, Esw9 (if it has enough bass), and the D1100.