[EH-Yeon]

Don't know if this has been asked, probably because it's too much of a newbie question but why do iDevices need the camera kit connection(Hugo does too). It's obviously annoying having lengths of cable that stick out either end and nobody has produced any right angle connectors either. I noticed that venturecraft use a direct lightening to usb connection without needing the camera kit. Thanks!

Also is there anywhere in the UK, preferably London where I can try the CDM? Thanks again!

Apple has a way to check for the authentication of the cable/plug, some third party cables do not work after certain firmware update. The manufacturers have to pay an amount of money to get their third party cables to have the licensed 'authorised by Apple' cable to work with the iproducts. Check for MFi program for more details. HTH.

 

[esteboune]

Apple has a way to check for the authentication of the cable/plug, some third party cables do not work after certain firmware update. The manufacturers have to pay an amount of money to get their third party cables to have the licensed 'authorised by Apple' cable to work with the iproducts. Check for MFi program for more details. HTH.

What a terrible strategy...

 

[Uncle E1]

What a terrible strategy...

 
looking at Apple's stock price and cash pile, the strategy doesn't seems to be bad at all

 

[raypin]

 ​mmm......Apple's strategy is fair......................fair to Apple's investors.

 

[FidelityCastro]

 ​mmm......Apple's strategy is fair......................fair to Apple's investors.

And anyone can open a share trading account buy the stock
Or indeed, boycott their products and buy something else

Agree @cho8 that the need to use the Camera Connection Kit is a pain in the backside; not just ergonomally but also compared to all the great little interconnects used to connect other devices - some of which actually improve SQ. I honestly expected someone to come up with a high quality workaround for the whole Apple CCK thing. I reckon a lot of Hugo / similar owners would jump at the chance.

 

[esteboune]

I have both. I usually will go for analog interconnect as it retains the zx2 signature smooth mids. Digital will have a more edgy sound.

Did you use an analog cable 3.5 TRRS to 2.5 TRRS
 
if i'm not wrong, the CDM has 2.5 TRRS in/out
 
might be nice to use the TRRS out from the ZX2

 

[tassardar]

 
Did you use an analog cable 3.5 TRRS to 2.5 TRRS
 
if i'm not wrong, the CDM has 2.5 TRRS in/out
 
might be nice to use the TRRS out from the ZX2

I did consider that. But my hardware shops here do not carry them (TRRS 2.5). If I can find someone who does carry it, I probably can custom one for less then 30. For now those online cable shops that do them are charging too high for something to just test hmmmm.

 

[esteboune]

  I did consider that. But my hardware shops here do not carry them (TRRS 2.5). If I can find someone who does carry it, I probably can custom one for less then 30. For now those online cable shops that do them are charging too high for something to just test hmmmm.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-lot-Jack-2-5-mm-Headphone-Plug-4-Pole-Audio-Jack-Connector-for-Cable-Adapter/32361056683.html?spm=2114.031010208.3.11.eS5dCc&ws_ab_test=201556_3,201527_1_71_72_73_74_75_76,201409_4
 
i bought the 3.5mm version, the quality is quite surprising!
 
i will order the 2.5mm, and make a 2.5 TRRS to 3.5 TRRS interconnect (ZX2 to CDM)
 
The headphone output is 2.5mm, isn't it?
 
in this case i will make an 2.5 female TRRS to 2.5 male TRRS
 
This 2.5mm choice is from my humble point of view not the best, it is more difficult to find quality components and it 2.5 looks quite fragile.
Finally, it is a PITA to have so many connectors and adapters...

 

[esteboune]

just found a useful adapter:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-5mm-4-Pole-TRRS-Male-to-3-5mm-4-Pole-Female-Gold-Plated-Adapter-/141760176897

 

[AxelCloris]

  just found a useful adapter:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-5mm-4-Pole-TRRS-Male-to-3-5mm-4-Pole-Female-Gold-Plated-Adapter-/141760176897

 
I don't know much about the ZX2, but if it has 3.5mm TRRS output and doesn't use the same pinout as the CDM then this is adapter would be a bad idea.

 

[tassardar]

Yup. The AK pin out (2.5mm bal) is very different from the Hifiman/ZX2(3.5mm bal) you need to wire them specifically to get it to work.

 

[AxelCloris]

  Yup. The AK pin out (2.5mm bal) is very different from the Hifiman/ZX2(3.5mm bal) you need to wire them specifically to get it to work.

 
Didn't know the ZX2 uses the same pinout as HIFIMAN, so that's definitely not an adapter I'd purchase. I know there are a few cable makers who will create a custom adapter for those who need one, but at that point why not just order a full interconnect and call it a day?

 

[esteboune]

edit: delete (wrong information)

 

[esteboune]

   
Didn't know the ZX2 uses the same pinout as HIFIMAN, so that's definitely not an adapter I'd purchase. I know there are a few cable makers who will create a custom adapter for those who need one, but at that point why not just order a full interconnect and call it a day?

beacause DIY is fun!

 

[tassardar]

Cdm input follows the ak system which is

T R R S
R- R+ L+ L-