[jlbrach]

The Susvara is weaker in the Bass region than the Solitaire P.

Which was one of the reasons I went for the Solitaire

truth is both are so good it is hard to criticize either...they both have insane detail they just have different presentations

 

[ThanatosVI]

Since the Ha200 has no thread of its own I ask my question here.

Did anyone compare the internal DAC with an external Rockna Wavelight as source?

I wonder how the DAC Implementations compare. Also the different Upsampling Filters.

 

[treebug]

Just received my Solitaire P. Actually ordered the SE but they sent the P in error! Glad they did, as it sounds superb and I received a discount as an apology!
Only had a quick listen but already I hear great detail and soundstage, very 3D sounding, strong bass and vocals.
Need to listen more (100 hours burn in according to T+A) but I may even be selling my Diana V2. It's more comfortable than the Diana even with the extra weight. Lots of ear space too!

 

[ThanatosVI]

It's finally here guys.
The T+A Serie 200, multi source player for the HA200.
https://www.ta-hifi.de/audiosysteme/serie-200/mp-200-multi-source-player/

The series has now also a separate DAC/Preamp and Power amp (based on purify class D)

 

[Newsee]

Since the Ha200 has no thread of its own I ask my question here.

Did anyone compare the internal DAC with an external Rockna Wavelight as source?

I wonder how the DAC Implementations compare. Also the different Upsampling Filters.

Maybe you could organize a meet up with @DarginMahkum, and try with own ears .
I would be very interested in the result, because of the new standalone DAC. (Thanks for the notification)

 

[HA-1]

I would like to use Schiit Lokius external EQ controls with the HA 200, but I don’t see a way to do it other than bringing in an external DAC and putting the output into the analog XLR input of the HA200.

There's now also a dedicated DAC by T+A, the DAC 200 .

 

[ThanatosVI]

Here are the german prices, as rough guideline.

MP200: 4390,- Euro
DAC200: 5490,- Euro, optional HDMI-Modul: 400,- Euro
A200: 3790,- Euro
HA200: 6600,- Euro

 

[DarginMahkum]

Here are the german prices, as rough guideline.

MP200: 4390,- Euro
DAC200: 5490,- Euro, optional HDMI-Modul: 400,- Euro
A200: 3790,- Euro
HA200: 6600,- Euro

I am considering trading my HA200 for DAC200. I will check if I can demo one.

 

[ThanatosVI]

I am considering trading my HA200 for DAC200. I will check if I can demo one.

Be warned, for unknown reason the DAC 200 lacks the EQ and Loudness functionality.
Also the Crossfeed function is only available on the HA200.

 

[DarginMahkum]

Be warned, for unknown reason the DAC 200 lacks the EQ and Loudness functionality.
Also the Crossfeed function is only available on the HA200.

Yes, I just noticed that from the manual. Oh, well... False alarm.

 

[ThanatosVI]

Yes, I just noticed that from the manual. Oh, well... False alarm.

I was really interested in either of those.
The HA200 lacks a regular pre out.
The DAC200 lacks the EQ (which is mandatory for me)

Always those little Details ..

 

[lator]

Where is the pre-amp/headphone amp combination without dac?

 

[ThanatosVI]

Where is the pre-amp/headphone amp combination without dac?

I don't think we will get to see that in the Series 200.

 

[BTD1]

There's now also a dedicated DAC by T+A, the DAC 200 .

So, as an experiment I connected the balanced out from Schiit Bifrost 2 into Lokius and that output into analog in on HA200. It works quite well and provides fine tuning beyond what is built into the HA200. I select this mode when I'm using either headphones that need a lot of adjustment, or really bad recordings, as many older classical recordings need EQ regardless of the headphone being used. When listening with the Solitaire P I use the built in DAC and tone controls on the HA200---I think it sounds better, but it's hard to quantify what is different. Ultimately, doing things this way allows a lot more flexibility and for sure to my ear the Lokius and the HA200 tone controls sound much better than any software EQ I have used. I have never quite understood why the HA200 costs $8900 USD, except that it seems to be built very well.

 

[DarginMahkum]

So, as an experiment I connected the balanced out from Schiit Bifrost 2 into Lokius and that output into analog in on HA200. It works quite well and provides fine tuning beyond what is built into the HA200. I select this mode when I'm using either headphones that need a lot of adjustment, or really bad recordings, as many older classical recordings need EQ regardless of the headphone being used. When listening with the Solitaire P I use the built in DAC and tone controls on the HA200---I think it sounds better, but it's hard to quantify what is different. Ultimately, doing things this way allows a lot more flexibility and for sure to my ear the Lokius and the HA200 tone controls sound much better than any software EQ I have used. I have never quite understood why the HA200 costs $8900 USD, except that it seems to be built very well.

Have you tried connecting the ADI-2 to HA200 and using the PEQ ADI-2 has? If yes, what is your opinion?