Sound Science Music Thread: Pass it on!

[bigshot]

Yeah, it does sound overworked. I'm not so convinced about what exactly was being rehearsed though. There's nothing on that album that sounds anything like the rhythmic Chinese puzzle boxes you find on Zappa albums.

 

[sonitus mirus]

Yeah, it does sound overworked. I'm not so convinced about what exactly was being rehearsed though. There's nothing on that album that sounds anything like the rhythmic Chinese puzzle boxes you find on Zappa albums.

Yes! I absolutely agree about the rehearsal claims. How does one rehearse tossing a ukulele down a spiral staircase while capturing the sound of a random dog fart?

 

[Steve999]

Captain Beefhart's Trout Mask Replica, Coltrane's Ascension, and the recent thread posting trends at Sound Science all remind me of one thing:

 

[GearMe]

Move over Rover!

Never tire of Hendrix...fast...slow...even Dylan sounds good when it's played by Jimi

1:37 - Fire; Lover Man - 9:23

 

[WoodyLuvr]

 

[Steve999]

Yes! I absolutely agree about the rehearsal claims. How does one rehearse tossing a ukulele down a spiral staircase while capturing the sound of a random dog fart?

More seriously than my crosstown traffic post, I find Ornette Coleman’s Free Jazz to be a lot more accessible and enjoyable than Coltrane’s Ascension or that Captain Beefheart stuff (though it is endlessly amusing).

For Coltrane along those lines, First Meditations is my go-to. That blew me away as a kid. Here's the first track.



I had a friend, in fact my best friend at the time, who bought that Captain Beefheart album when I was a kid, and I was just like, dude, are you okay? Now that there is no cost to listen to it I can be more relaxed and nonjudgmental about it. It does kind of create a bizarre stream of consciousness in me, inching visceral amusement.

 

[Steve999]

I spent some time auditioning Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band's critically acclaimed Trout Mask Replica album.



I still can't appreciate the nuances and chaos of it all. It is a "rock" version of free jazz stuff that I similarly can't seem to fully groove on, such as John Coltrane's highly lauded Ascension.



I'll keep at it and read more opinions about how to enjoy such stuff.

That's very diligent of you!

I just gave Trout Mask Replica a full listen and it is singularly unique and not that pleasant and too profane for what it is trying to do, in my subjective opinion. It does hold your curiosity though. I think this is one where the critics dropped the ball by heaping too much praise on it. But who am I to say. : )

By intuition I think a similar musical aesthetic but with vastly superior musicianship and composition is this (and the whole album for that matter). It might be a better way to get your feet wet if you haven't heard it already.



Enjoy!

 

[sonitus mirus]

That's very diligent of you!

I just gave Trout Mask Replica a full listen and it is singularly unique and not that pleasant and too profane for what it is trying to do, in my subjective opinion. It does hold your curiosity though. I think this is one where the critics dropped the ball by heaping too much praise on it. But who am I to say. : )

By intuition I think a similar musical aesthetic but with vastly superior musicianship and composition is this (and the whole album for that matter). It might be a better way to get your feet wet if you haven't heard it already.



Enjoy!

Thank you for sharing. Much, much better to get my feet wet with this style of jazz.

Coryell plays fusion jazz which is not at the same level of complexity as free jazz, in a good way. Fusion has a rhythm anyone can follow by tapping their foot to the beat, most of the time. My favorite by Coryell is Eleventh House. Larry Coryell's music is outstanding for anyone that already loves classic rock music and wants to ease themselves a bit more into jazz; which, along with the blues, largely influenced many of the pioneers of rock.

 

[sonitus mirus]

When Moon dies, The Who essentially ended. The change in the band occurred well before that.

I’d say the transition was actually during Townshend’s attempt to bring Project Lifehouse into reality in 71-72. Until then, the power dynamic in the group was split between Daltrey and Townsend - Townshend became the primary creative force with Lifehouse and wanted to deal with both more serious issues and his evolving Eastern philosophical worldview driven by his new adherence to the teachings of Meher Baba. While Lifehouse was never realized as the multimedia experience Townshend envisioned, the music intended to be a single concept album became Who’s Next, The Who By Numbers, and Townshends early solo work. Daltry was largely relegated to being the frontman without much creative input.

That’s an enourmously condensed version of the story, as Pete was going through a lot of psychological issues at the time, as well as the general band identity change from being th leaders of the Mod music genre to a more complex set of music influences and audience. Moon and Entwistle, were massively important to the sound, but really weren’t a large part of the creative process and also avoided the Daltrey/Townshend taffy pull as much as possible.

Condensed as it was, it was still profoundly informational. Thanks!

 

[Steve999]

Thank you for sharing. Much, much better to get my feet wet with this style of jazz.

Coryell plays fusion jazz which is not at the same level of complexity as free jazz, in a good way. Fusion has a rhythm anyone can follow by tapping their foot to the beat, most of the time. My favorite by Coryell is Eleventh House. Larry Coryell's music is outstanding for anyone that already loves classic rock music and wants to ease themselves a bit more into jazz; which, along with the blues, largely influenced many of the pioneers of rock.

I saw Coryell at a concert at a nightclub once. My heart raced a little. Watching someone play like that some number of feet in front of you is kind of surreal.

Free jazz with a beat? We can do that!

 

[Steve999]

Wow, here's something brand new for me. Cool. This is awesome.

 

[Steve999]

Just ran across this. Wow! Something new for me! The old, the new, the faithful, friendship, goosebumps for Steve999! Worth a few listens at least to hear everything that's going on, IMHO.

 

[Steve999]

Was fishing around in Spotify and ran across this. . . blew me away.

I assume that's Jo Jones (not Philly Joe Jones!) on drums to bring the song in, Count Basie has to get in his two notes for his intro solo before Sinatra takes off in flight, the arrangement of the Count Basie big band is by Quincy Jones, the Sinatra vocals, just incredible. . . if you play an instrument try and play that, just the single notes he's singing! Even just a few notes! It sounds simple but he is playing with the melody and the words and the rhythm and the feeling in just an incredible way! This is not a "straight" reading by any stretch of the imagination. I'm pretty sure that's Freddie Green on guitar doing his thing, so perfect. . . and the big band all together is so great. Best version of this song I've ever head for my taste. And I love the flute getting some solo time. . . perfect!

 

[JRG1990]

EDM.

 

[Steve999]

EDM.

Cool! And great subwoofer workout! Also great exercise in hearing pitches in the vicinity of 41 hz and an octave or so up in the synth I guess it is.