[takezo]

i remember reading somewhere on a website that these will be priced
$399 when it hits the usa market early next year.

 

[Dregur]

Really? If it is, I'm totally getting it then (or the new Creative HDD player), cuz the cost is the only thing preventing me from getting the Kenwood player.

-The Grinman

 

[Gurra1980]

My iriver E10 has 18mW + 18mW out effect, can the kenwood match that in reality? because it only has 8 + 8mW. I can't see how it could drive my HD-595 properly.

 

[FenderP]

Is it gapless only with lossless files?

 

[Sparky191]

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenderP /img/forum/go_quote.gif Is it gapless only with lossless files?

No depends on the player. Sony's can do it with ATRAC and I think the Karma's can do it with Mp3's.

 

[FenderP]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky191 /img/forum/go_quote.gif No depends on the player. Sony's can do it with ATRAC and I think the Karma's can do it with Mp3's.

I know that, duh. I was specifically asking about the Kenwood since this is what the thread is about. I have owned a Karma and currently own a Sony. Was looking for something new possibly and if the Kenwood is only gapless with Kenwood's Lossless, it's not worth it.

 

[Sparky191]

Of course you were, no idea why I posted that. Too used to people asking the obvious.

 

[Aluinser]

Just wanted to know how you guys manage the music for different brand players. For example, I have everything on Apple Loseless/iTunes for my iPod, how do I get the library to work for something lie the Kenwood which I think only works on Windows??

 

[Assorted]

I use SonicStage for my NW-HD1, WMP for my iRiver, and the Kenwood Media Application for my HD30GB9.

If you don't have windows, you can't use the Kenwood. In addition to that, you'll have to convert/rerip everything to either MP3, WMA or WAV :/

 

[Sparky191]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aluinser /img/forum/go_quote.gif Just wanted to know how you guys manage the music for different brand players. For example, I have everything on Apple Loseless/iTunes for my iPod, how do I get the library to work for something lie the Kenwood which I think only works on Windows??

AFAIK the only thing that works with Apple Lossless is iTunes. Could be wrong.

 

[Aluinser]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assorted /img/forum/go_quote.gif I use SonicStage for my NW-HD1, WMP for my iRiver, and the Kenwood Media Application for my HD30GB9. If you don't have windows, you can't use the Kenwood. In addition to that, you'll have to convert/rerip everything to either MP3, WMA or WAV :/

I guess if the soundstage is really that good, then its probably worth the extra work. From your experience, would you say the inbuilt amp is so good that a portable amp is not necessary at all? WAV would be the most detailed encoding right or kenwood loseless (??)? Thanks.

 

[Assorted]

It was hard for me to tell the difference between Kenwood Lossless and Wav, but it's the closest thing after lossless, with a less chunk of memory.

I wouldn't suggest a portable amp unless you have high impedance headphones, since the HD30GB9 does not have a line-out capability. Nevertheless it sounds quite amazing.

Another thing worth mentioning is that it has considerable white noise, so if you're going to use a really sensitive IEM/headphone, it's a good idea to run it thru an attenuator and crank up the volume. With my E500s I have the HD30GB9 volume level at 16/30 and the attenuator at 60% resistance.

 

[FenderP]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assorted /img/forum/go_quote.gif It was hard for me to tell the difference between Kenwood Lossless and Wav, but it's the closest thing after lossless, with a less chunk of memory.

Lossless means that it and WAV are the same, just less space. If there's a difference, it's not lossless.

I have two Sony DAPs (HD3 & HD5) and was considering the HD30GB9. A couple of questions:
1. Is it gapless with anything other than Kenwood Lossless or WAV?
2. Does the new firmware upgrade allow you to have WMA up to 355 as you can on the HD10GB7?

 

[calyx]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assorted /img/forum/go_quote.gif It was hard for me to tell the difference between Kenwood Lossless and Wav, but it's the closest thing after lossless, with a less chunk of memory. I wouldn't suggest a portable amp unless you have high impedance headphones, since the HD30GB9 does not have a line-out capability. Nevertheless it sounds quite amazing. Another thing worth mentioning is that it has considerable white noise, so if you're going to use a really sensitive IEM/headphone, it's a good idea to run it thru an attenuator and crank up the volume. With my E500s I have the HD30GB9 volume level at 16/30 and the attenuator at 60% resistance.

I thought there should not be even a tiny bit of sound quality difference between Kenwood lossless, wav, flac, apple lossless or any other lossless. After all they are all lossless.

And about the white noise, it was a complaint for GA9 and GB9 is released to mainly address this issue as far as I know. So are you sure you are referring to GB9 about the considerable white noise?

Thank you

 

[Assorted]

I'm less enlightened on the concept of "lossless with less space"

Yes it is gapless on all formats (shouldn't they be?), and I don't think the 355kbps WMA firmware update applies to the HD30GB9.

It has white noise, I am referring to the HD30GB9, so I suggest a volume attenuator if you don't care about the battery life and have sensitive IEMs.