SONY NW-WM1Z / WM1A
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Mar 1, 2019 at 3:10 PM Post #27,407 of 45,723
Does anyone use mp3 files at 192 kbps using wm1z? If so, how do they sound? Any recommendation?

Personally I don't care for anything below 320, 90% of my library is Red-book and Hi-res. I have tried the DSEE HX feature with 192 though, while it makes a sonic difference, not sure if it helped or not, I think the sound quality is depends ,ore on the quality of the production, mix and mastering though.
 
Mar 1, 2019 at 3:29 PM Post #27,408 of 45,723
Does anyone use mp3 files at 192 kbps using wm1z? If so, how do they sound? Any recommendation?
I do, I listen to Cpop and about half of my songs are from 192 to 320 kbps; if the the recording is good then it should sound good. Use DSEEHX, Phase Linearizer, Vinyl Processor and EQ for even better sound quality. The other half I have are FLAC and DSD, I personally find they are comparable with regular FLAC, not too much quality difference, provided the recording is good. I think Sony has very good app converting MP3 files to almost CD quality. Again, I often use direct mode but recently use Sony app for fun: DSEEHX etc definitely make the sound quality better, clearer and I am just using JVC FX850 and ALO Ref8 cable. Try it yourself, I think you'll be surprised to hear how good it sounds when you play with EQ etc considering its 192-320 kbps.
 
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Mar 1, 2019 at 4:15 PM Post #27,409 of 45,723
Does anyone use mp3 files at 192 kbps using wm1z? If so, how do they sound? Any recommendation?
Yes, I do. I download a lot of field recordings from the web (I love “field recordings”) and the most of the time the compressed files sounded incredibly natural through the 1Z. I use DSEE “strings” to get some more ”tactile” mids when the recording is a bit on the flat side but always the 1Z gives his analog magic to the mids of almost everything it touches.
 
Mar 1, 2019 at 9:45 PM Post #27,410 of 45,723
If these types of "reports" bother you because of the expense and inconvenience that can come out of it, best advice is to not buy at all. Sort of like don't buy a house if you can't deal the inevitable maintenance that comes with it. Electronics fail, it's a fact of life. They also get stolen too, but it's amazing to me how there are so few "reports" about that.
Nothing bothers me i have plenty of money im a curious person friend... i dont have to worry about that things eventually i will get to the top of audio im just going step by step enjoing nuances of products,next sony release i may buy top tier stuff... never been solen anithing im my life i guess im a lucky guy also so that doesent bothers me either just curious about the reports i read about balanced failing since its a really good quality product. As you can see my question helped some users to comunicate thats the hole point of being here...
 
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Mar 2, 2019 at 12:40 AM Post #27,412 of 45,723
Nothing bothers me i have plenty of money im a curious person friend... i dont have to worry about that things eventually i will get to the top of audio im just going step by step enjoing nuances of products,next sony release i may buy top tier stuff... never been solen anithing im my life i guess im a lucky guy also so that doesent bothers me either just curious about the reports i read about balanced failing since its a really good quality product. As you can see my question helped some users to comunicate thats the hole point of being here...

That's cool. A lot of folks here take 1 or 2 data points and proclaim wide spread design flaws. This seems to scale up with more expensive purchases.
 
Mar 2, 2019 at 3:06 AM Post #27,413 of 45,723
Does anyone use mp3 files at 192 kbps using wm1z? If so, how do they sound? Any recommendation?
use DSEE HX for these. In the past i used to have only 192 CBR MP3 and my Walkmen with DSEE on made these sound no different from CD rip

But with WM1A sadly I cannot say much as since 2012 I own only FLAC, hi-res and DSD
 
Mar 2, 2019 at 8:18 AM Post #27,414 of 45,723
I quickly looked at that cable. It’s a balanced cable for a 3.5mm balanced input. So it’s simple really. Your 4.4mm Pentaconn plug has 5 poles but only 4 are used. It’s +- then +- to the other end which is a balance 3.5mm plug that also has +- and +-. Your headphones are not balanced but single ended because they share a common ground for both right and left channels. So it would look like this ++- and the other end ++-. So it will not work.

Thanks Redcarmoose for taking the time to look up the wiring configs - greatly appreciated.

As far as I am aware, the PM-3 has an inbuilt balanced circuitry so in theory, it should work with balanced cable. Seeing that L/R Separation isn't working in this instance, and based on what you have mentioned, I can only guess that this Sony balanced cable isn't compatible with the PM-3, unfortunately.

Many thanks for looking up the circuitry once again.
 
Mar 2, 2019 at 8:33 AM Post #27,415 of 45,723
Double Helix Molecule, balanced and built for the WM1A and PM-3.

Thanks JML, that's one nice looking cable. Just wondering if oxidation would occur and changes the colour of the cable green?

I just did a search on ebay and found LQi Cables also produce WM1A - PM3 balanced cable (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-4mm-B...var=471493293612&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649) and based on some of the reviews I've read between the traps, LQi (https://lqicables.com) sounds like they make good cables also. If anyone can share some light between DHC vs. LQi cables, that would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou.
 
Mar 2, 2019 at 8:38 AM Post #27,416 of 45,723
That's cool. A lot of folks here take 1 or 2 data points and proclaim wide spread design flaws. This seems to scale up with more expensive purchases.
i havent seen that much reports over wm1a failing but one user here in forum one day woked un and briked it dough his computer started failing too same day so i suspect i can be emp or magnetically related lol 2 things failing same day an apple computer and a wm1a... its really weird
 
Mar 2, 2019 at 9:00 AM Post #27,417 of 45,723
Thanks Redcarmoose for taking the time to look up the wiring configs - greatly appreciated.

As far as I am aware, the PM-3 has an inbuilt balanced circuitry so in theory, it should work with balanced cable. Seeing that L/R Separation isn't working in this instance, and based on what you have mentioned, I can only guess that this Sony balanced cable isn't compatible with the PM-3, unfortunately.

Many thanks for looking up the circuitry once again.
Actually I was just guessing that was the issue. But again it’s amazing at times when connections don’t line up. It would not be the first time Sony made a propitiatory style plug. So it sounds like there is balanced plugs. Though the connection in JML’s photo didn’t look 4.4mm?
https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/4-4mm-BALANCED-Cable-for-OPPO-PM3-Silver-Plated-Copper-sony-nw-wm1z-wm1a-zx300/172699178100?varId=471493293612&ul_ref=https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?type=4&campId=5338093425&toolId=10001&customId=jsrjxjtwmp01zlp1007ht&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2F4-4mm-BALANCED-Cable-for-OPPO-PM3-Silver-Plated-Copper-sony-nw-wm1z-wm1a-zx300%2F172699178100%3FssPageName%3DSTRK%253AMEBIDX%253AIT%26var%3D471493293612%26_trksid%3Dp2060353.m1438.l2649&srcrot=705-53470-19255-0&rvr_id=1878666755471&rvr_ts=3eb2a7371690ab1cab93d331ffdf4b7a&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1&ul_noapp=true
Though it does look like your headphone accepts balanced it was just a misalignment with the Sony. I was completely wrong I apologize.
 
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Mar 2, 2019 at 4:02 PM Post #27,419 of 45,723
Vinyl processor is so good. It really changes the character of the WM1A. The sound is more mid-bass, mid focused and not at all bright in the treble. Loving it
 
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