[Whitigir]

Utopia and 1Z - a match made in heaven. So dynamic, so punchy and musical 

Exactly...100x. The same thing if you pair it with TA-ZH1ES, and I can confirm to you that the best cables materials for this pairing is Silver-gold wires as well

 

[mscott58]

Exactly...100x. The same thing if you pair it with TA-ZH1ES, and I can confirm to you that the best cables materials for this pairing is Silver-gold wires as well

 
I thought Unobtanium cables were the best? 

 

[gerelmx1986]

Listening to Rachmaninov sonatas for two pianos, The separation is great and the air wow, hearing both pianos as natural as posible is just wow, unlike other sources present them hard-panned as one piano on the L cannel and the other piano on the R channel

 

[Jalo]

Exactly...100x. The same thing if you pair it with TA-ZH1ES, and I can confirm to you that the best cables materials for this pairing is Silver-gold wires as well

I will agree with you on the Z1R and Utopia. I listened to the Z1R several times but the Utopia is another level up. I also recently listened to the TA-ZH1ES, how much difference do you feel there is between the 1Z and the TA-1ES? Also, which silver gold wires do you use? And compare to best pure silver wires, what are the differences?

Good choice on Utopia + 1Z, that is where I am going also.

 

[Whitigir]

I will agree with you on the Z1R and Utopia. I listened to the Z1R several times but the Utopia is another level up. I also recently listened to the TA-ZH1ES, how much difference do you feel there is between the 1Z and the TA-1ES? Also, which silver gold wires do you use? And compare to best pure silver wires, what are the differences?

Good choice on Utopia + 1Z, that is where I a going also.

1Z and TA-ZH1ES are substantially different when using the same cables silver-gold and 4.4mm into Utopia. I use my DIY cables. The separation, soundstage is much wider, taller and in a better rendering with much more vivid resolution on Ta-ZH1ES. The body has a denser energy. It is as much of a different as that if I was to compare A/B between WM1Z+Utopia or TA-ZH1ES + Utopia, I would immediately reach out for Ta-ZH1ES whenever I can. However, as I leave my TA in the office, the WM1Z and Utopia is also very satisfying to take home with as well.

I did not try Utopia with the best silver wires cables yet. I briefly tried it with some older Silver wires I had here, but it is a PITA to work on the cables and expensive Lemo is not ideal to make different cables to A/B. I only briefly compared it from memory. Basically the silver-gold has better Bass body while still retaining the speed, splashes and sparkles of the trebles.

 

[blazinblazin]

Exactly...100x. The same thing if you pair it with TA-ZH1ES, and I can confirm to you that the best cables materials for this pairing is Silver-gold wires as well

By Silver-gold you mean silver-gold alloy?

I am having headache on which cable to upgrade to and from which makers.

 

[Mimouille]

By Silver-gold you mean silver-gold alloy?

I am having headache on which cable to upgrade to and from which makers.

you'll get an even bigger headache trying to hear differences between a 100$ and 1000$ cable.

 

[Whitigir]

By Silver-gold you mean silver-gold alloy?

I am having headache on which cable to upgrade to and from which makers.

Yes, the alloy. I have not seen silver gold plated or hybrid strands being widely available yet though.

 

[Jalo]

1Z and TA-ZH1ES are substantially different when using the same cables silver-gold and 4.4mm into Utopia. I use my DIY cables. The separation, soundstage is much wider, taller and in a better rendering with much more vivid resolution on Ta-ZH1ES. The body has a denser energy. It is as much of a different as that if I was to compare A/B between WM1Z+Utopia or TA-ZH1ES + Utopia, I would immediately reach out for Ta-ZH1ES whenever I can. However, as I leave my TA in the office, the WM1Z and Utopia is also very satisfying to take home with as well.

I did not try Utopia with the best silver wires cables yet. I briefly tried it with some older Silver wires I had here, but it is a PITA to work on the cables and expensive Lemo is not ideal to make different cables to A/B. I only briefly compared it from memory. Basically the silver-gold has better Bass body while still retaining the speed, splashes and sparkles of the trebles.

Thanks for sharing the difference between the TA and the 1Z with utopia. With regard to silver gold wires, I am preaching to the choir, your description matches my experience. I still have my 1st generation silver TWag fro Craig with that bad batch of silver from eight years ago and it was dry and brittle. That started me searching for something that gives me the sparkles of treble but the smoothness and warmer bass of copper and I ended with a bunch of Piccolino wires. When I was making my Kimber Axios last month they actually offer to take my Piccolino in exchange for another Axios that I want to get for the Utopia and I am still holding out on that as I can buy another Axios but Piccolino is no more to be found.

 

[Jalo]

you'll get an even bigger headache trying to hear differences between a 100$ and 1000$ cable.

I think the headache comes from realising the differences between your head and your heart are at different places. Your head is with the $100.00 and your heart is with the $1000.00 and the headache gets bigger as you go up the scale to the likes of the $3000.00 Axios

 

[Mimouille]

I think the headache comes from realising the differences between your head and your heart are at different places. Your head is with the $100.00 and your heart is with the $1000.00 and the headache gets bigger as you go up the scale to the likes of the $3000.00 Axios

Actually I have a piccolino so I'll stick with that

 

[audionewbi]

Listening to Rachmaninov sonatas for two pianos, The separation is great and the air wow, hearing both pianos as natural as posible is just wow, unlike other sources present them hard-panned as one piano on the L cannel and the other piano on the R channel

Try this album.
http://www.allmusic.com/album/rachmaninov-heritage-mw0002605205

 

[Paddlebash]

  Does anyone know if the Sony Kimber Cable B20SB1 will work on the Elears?

Yes James! I have tried them and it works! Only downside is that it does not screw onto the Elears. You can feel and hear the 3.5mm connector sit into the Elears though.

I have a spare B20SB1 sealed if you are unable to find any!

 

[gerelmx1986]

Currently in the morning MDR - Z7 standard gain volume. 60

 

[gearofwar]

amazing pairing